There is one member there that is 86 years old. He is really active and tells me he’s never been sick a day in all his life. He used to smoke but hasn’t since he was 40.
But often he seems to really charge down stairs or move way too quick for my liking.
You know how you always here, “He was fine, till one day he fell, broke his hip and that was that.” Then they die.
Does this really happen? I know you can’t be exact but if it is common, why do people who are pretty healthy go downhill so quickly once they break a hip?
This person has a lot of money so would be able to get the finest health care anywhere in world actually, if that would mean anything
It’s a very serious injury that renders the victim bedridden for a long time and takes many months of physiotherapy and often further operations before they recover. Even then, a full recovery is not guaranteed.
Combine this with old age and you can see how recovery is considerably harder than for a younger person. Some people just never fully recover full mobility.
My mother broke her hip when she was 60. Thankfully she was still young and fit enough to cope with the recovery, but it still took months.
One out of five hip fracture patients dies within a year of their injury.
Treatment typically includes surgery and hospitalization, usually for about one week, and is frequently followed by admission to a nursing home and extensive rehabilitation.
Up to one in four adults who lived independently before their hip fracture remains in a nursing home for at least a year after their injury.
Now, the first point may be correlation rather than causation (a lot of hip fracture patients are elderly, and may have died within a year regardless of the injury).
However, the second and third points suggest that it’s a difficult injury to rehabilitate, and the rehab time may be very lengthy. As we get older, our bodies tend to heal more slowly, and I imagine that a hip fracture leads to very limited movement until it heals.
According to this study after surgery for a hip-fracture, 27.3% were dead within a year and 79.0% were dead within the follow-up period (up to 9 years). The authors estimated that the mortality was 3 times that of the general population of age- and sex-matched people.
Right after her nephew and his family left Thanksgiving evening 1987 my great-grandma fell and broke her hip. She lay on the floor till Saturday when he got worried enough at her unanswered phone to come back over. They put her on painkillers for the surgery and no one ever heard from the woman we all knew again. She healed well physically but her mind was gone and she spent another 6 years in a nursing home stealing from other rooms and being very confused before pneumonia got her.
That’s how my grandmother eventually went. She fell several times, broke both hips (one of them twice), ended up in a wheelchair, then in a (very nice) nursing home. Fell again trying to get out of bed (grandma HATED asking for help), broke her hip AGAIN, couldn’t use the chair anymore and was bedridden, got pneumonia and died.
Took about 5 years. She was 93 when she passed.
The first hip broke when she fell off a step-stool to get something off the top of the fridge. Waited on the floor for 9 hours until me and my brother found her after school. That healed and she used a walker afterward.
The other 2 falls were the bitch. Turns out they were caused by the medication her idiot Dr. had her on - dropped her blood pressure until she passed out. The one that put her in the chair and nursing home happened in the hospital.
Final one that killed her was grandma’s own fault. She wanted to get out of bed and into her chair, and didn’t want to “bother” the nurse.
Interesting, I just like this old guy but try to tell some 86 year old what to do and see where you get. Try to tell an 86 year old with 50 million in the bank and see how that goes LOL
In an older person, major surgery can put them at a risk of postoperative cognitive dysfunction, especially if they were anesthetized for a long time. If they have dementia as well it can really exacerbate it, and it can be really difficult to rehab a hip injury when somebody’s cognitive functioning is heavily impaired. My mom has some mild dementia and fell and broke a hip late last year (and then broke the other socket a month or two later), and was really out of it for quite a while, especially immediately after the surgery. She’s only just now getting back to where she was mentally, much to our relief.
Some of this might be correlation without causation. When you’re old and brittle enough to fall and break a hip, you might be old and brittle enough to be near death. In other words, they may be been dead within a year without the fall and the break.
However, as others have pointed out, once you have a major medical problem and you’re old, things can go down hill quickly.
Thank you for that link, pravnik, it explains a lot. Grandma certainly had already lost some cognitive function in the 3-4 years before her fall; we’d find rotted food or no food in her kitchen and after she was taken to the hospital it was found she had simply been tossing her bagged trash down the basement stairs. She’d also continued to pay the car insurance for grandpa’s car which was sold when he passed in 1976.
Peace and continued healing to your mom.
Interestingly enough it is not unusual for the break to happen first causing the person to fall. My mothers doctor said that this happens in about a quarter of the cases.
My limited understanding is that infection after surgery can also apparently be a factor. My MIL just passed after a fall that resulted in a broken hip. She had surgery, went into a nursing /rehab facility, got a staph infection, and that seems to be what finally got her.
You lose 10% of your muscle mass with each week you are immobilized in bed. Elderly people have very little muscle mass to begin with, so being laid up for several weeks with a broken hip means they’re then too weak to build back up the muscle strength needed for rehabilitative recovery. Additionally, being immobilized horizontally in bed leads to pneumonia and other lung issues, decreased heart pumping effectiveness,
I don’t think young healthy people appreciate how debilitating being bedridden can be (for anyone, but obviously the elderly have fewer resources to call on to help them bounce back). Every time my mom (early 90’s) went to the hospital (stays of only a few days) she came back visibly diminished, both physically and mentally, even after two weeks of PT and OT.
Generally speaking, you do lose some muscle as you age, but if the person works out, does weight lifting 3 times a week, that person will not lose muscle mass, and can still gain more strength. So even an “elderly” person will still be in good shape after several weeks, if that person was in good shape before the injury.
You lose 10% of your muscle mass per week when you are immobilized in bed, whether or not you were in good shape before the broken hip.
After age 40, we lose 8 percent or more of muscle mass each decade, and more after age 70, unless we are actively working out. The question was “why do people who are pretty healthy go downhill so quickly once they break a hip?”, not “how can we prevent it.”
