You are absolutely right, in the case of how I pronounce the words. I grew up in the suburbs of Philadelphia, by the way.
I’m not sure why this needed to be marked as a spoiler though.
You are absolutely right, in the case of how I pronounce the words. I grew up in the suburbs of Philadelphia, by the way.
I’m not sure why this needed to be marked as a spoiler though.
I grew up in the suburbs of Philadelphia, too, and all those words rhyme, as do prong, dong, kong, strong, bong, belong, prolong, and along.
E: And tong and throng.
Very interesting. It appears that this is a case of my having a non-standard American accent. Even after living in California for almost 40 years.
I also lived in Montreal for some time when I was young. I tried one of those quizzes to place your origin based on your accent and it got me wrong, perhaps because I lived in different places.
“Song,” “long,” and “wrong” all rhyme with each other.
But “gong” is a totally different sound. “Gong” rhymes with words like “prong” and “tong” and “thong” and “Hong Kong”.
All of those words rhyme.
Stop pointing out the logical flaws in my posts, or the elf dies.
Oh, I was just being silly, really, but I didn’t want you to see what I wrote and think, “Well, that wasn’t how I was going to describe it, but maybe I do say them like that…” Cut to suranyi lying awake at 3:00am in the throes of an existential/linguistic crisis, muttering “…song… long… wrong… gong… song… hmm…”
I’d love to see this meme-ified, a la “God kills a kitten”.
Wrong. Song, long and gong all rhyme.
This.
“Song,” “long,” and “wrong” all use the aw sound, whereas as “prong,” “tong,” “thong” and “Hong Kong” sound closer to “prahng” “tahng” etc.
And dog (dawg) and log (lahg) don’t rhyme either.
All of those words rhyme to me, at least in my head and how I pronounce them. I grew up in western Pennsylvania, USA.
ETA: and yes, dog, log, frog, and other words ending in “og” rhyme to me, too.
They all fully rhyme to me.
The thing is, even if a set of words don’t perfectly rhyme, what the heck? There’s a thing called slant rhymes (or near rhymes) and they’re used all the time in poetry. Words used in a rhyming fashion don’t have to be exact mirror copies of each other. It’s a moot point.
Song, long, gong and wrong all rhyme to me. But they don’t have the exact final sound. Very, very close, so good enough for rhyming at any level of poetry.
All four rhyme for me (lifelong resident of US west coast).
Dog, log, etc., are also rhymes for me.
Shouldn’t that be “this kind of Thing comes up a lot with Hop on Pop”?
Good example of why these sorts of discussions are tough without a universal system like IPA. All those words rhyme in my Midwest/Great Lakes dialect. “Dog” and “log” rhyme here, too.
My mother always pronounced the G in “coat-hanger” the way it is pronounces in “finger” as opposed to “singer”.
I usually think that people are messing with us when they make posts like this. Every single ng word in your post rhymes with all the others.
This is, I think, an example of what is called the cot/caught merger. For most Americans, the phonemes /ɒ/ and /ɔ/, distinct in British English, have merged, so they don’t perceive (or create) teh difference between song & long that suranyi appears to.