[sub]Not sure if this is GD or IMHO, so I’ll start here…[/sub]
I’m a pizza delivery guy, whose income is mainly tips.
Anyways… I’ve delivered to a woman’s house umpteen times. Each time I’ve delivered there after the second time, I’ve remembered that she doesn’t tip just as I get to her townhouse. Sure enough, she doesn’t tip me.
Then the other week, my family and I went to Bob Evans restaurant. I see this woman, working as a waitress (but not in our section).
I had a thought: if she were my waitress, I could *not tip her with a note stating that pizza guys live by tips too.
Would this be a valid thing to do, as she doesn’t tip me when I serve her? Or to educate her on who else needs tips? Or am I just being vindictive?
If it was me, I’d look her right in the face and say, “I’m giving you a tip, even though you never tip me when I deliver pizza. I feel like you did a good job and deserve a tip. I’m sorry you don’t think I deserve a tip.”
Not leaving a tip won’t mean anything to her. She probably doesn’t realize you’re the guy who delivers her pizza. And if you don’t leave a tip, then you’re becoming as cheap and inconsiderate as she is.
I say kill her with kindness. Start out by making small talk. Act surprised to see her by saying something like “Hey! Haven’t I delivered pizza to your house before?” But you have to act genuinely happy and surprised to see her there. Be really nice to her all through your meal. Then when leaving, tip her well. I know it’s gonna kill you, but just grin and bear it. Hopefully, it’ll teach her some manners and guilt trip her into tipping you better. If that doesn’t work I don’t know what will.
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Ps. I’m a waitress myself, so I know what it’s like to have to live off tips. I always tip well. Keeps the karma in check.
I too tip well; I would’ve had a problem not tipping her even though she didn’t. But I feel that she (and others) need to know that delivering pizza is not worth the minimum wage base we get.
(I know waitresses get less than minimum. My last pizza place manager paid $1 less than minimum now that we’re classified as tipped employees. Thankfully my current manager pays at least minimum.)
At the place I work at now, we get paid $2.61 an hour. After taxes are taken out for my hourly wage and then for out tips, I’m usually left with less than $1 an hour for my paychecks. :eek:
If it was me, I’d set her up so she really gets the point. Go eat dinner, and be totally pleasent during the meal. Be downright nice to her. When she brings the check, mention to her how great the service was. Then be an asshole. Tell her that you work as a pizza delivery guy, and can’t leave a tip because nobody tips you and you’re strapped for cash this week. Lay it on thick too. Bring up the whole “less than minimum wage” thing. Maybe even mention “do unto others”. Play it up. Make her think about it.
If it was me, I’d set her up so she really gets the point. Go eat dinner, and be totally pleasent during the meal. Be downright nice to her. When she brings the check, mention to her how great the service was. Then be an asshole. Tell her that you work as a pizza delivery guy, and can’t leave a tip because nobody tips you and you’re strapped for cash this week. Lay it on thick too. Bring up the whole “less than minimum wage” thing. Maybe even mention “do unto others”. Play it up. Make her think about it.
maybe she can’t afford to give out tips? , being a waiteress herself , i do give tips far too much sometimes
but i give it because i can afford it ,
there are a million and one charity people knocking on my door asking me to buy their leaflets for £2 ($3.50 about)
but i refuse because if i buy one and don’t buy another i feel bad and i certainly cannot afford to buy one off them all , but then tipping has its benifits sometimes .
In Germany 1997 Oktoberfest tankers and tankers of beer you were told (by word of mouth from other guests) to leave 2-3 DM tip for every litre of beer and when you did the waitress always came back quickly , without and you faded into the crowd and beers would come very slowly , more of an incentive maybe.
oh, god! not this again! look out, i hear Guinistasia coming…
i would call her a shithook and stiff her on the tip, then wait till her pizza was good and cold the next time you go to her place, then when she answers the door, say “Hi, heres your pizza!” like nothing ever happened! (and withhold those groovy coupons you guys always bring)
The thing I would be worried about is whether she might call your work and complain. If you’re a huge asshole when dealing with her, could she ring your boss and get you in trouble?
I like the idea of killing her with kindness - first make sure she recognises you, though!
My experience is actually the opposite; I found that when I was delivering pizzas-- which I did for 4 years, so I feel AWB’s pain-- that people who work for tips are generally the most generous tippers. This applies to both me and my friends who tip generously, and also the customers I delivered to.
And I also believe that if you don’t have money for a tip, you don’t have money for delivery pizza either.
I think this is highly unlikely, but still possible, that she just doesn’t know that delivery drivers are supposed to get tipped. I had quite a few people during my years out there who I am convinced were genuinely ignorant. They’d hand me a check for the exact amount with a big smile, and say, “Thank you!” very sincerely, and I don’t think very many people are that good actors.
Unfortunately, I never came up with a satisfactory way to educate those people, at least not directly. I decided I just had to suck it up with those folks and plan on not getting a tip.
That was my intent; I’m asking “should I do to her what she has done to me?”, not (as paraphrased from the Bible) “should I do to her how I hope she does to me?”