Just because Obama probably looks like a right winger to you BG doesn’t mean everyone else sees him in the same light.
I’m highly skeptical of his economic policies to…and I’d say that while not a socialist he definitely has leanings in that direction with some of his proposals.
Goldwater once said something to the effect of, “Every good Christian ought to kick Jerry Falwell right in the ass!” That was when he was older and a lot more crotchety, mind you.
See my location, and you’ll see my own candidate choice. But this has been a very interesting thread. Once again I’m glad that Dopers can disagree without (necessarily, or inevitably) being disagreeable.
I support household savings rates and McCain policies
The Household savings rate under democrat administrations has always gone down
Household savings Under Carter 1977 to 1981 down from 10% to 8%
Household savings Under Clinton 1992 to 2000 down from 7.5% to 2%
The Household savings rate under republican administrations has always gone up
Household savings Under Reagan 1981 to 1988 up from 8% to 12% then dropping back to 7.5%
Household savings Under Bush 1 1988 to 1992 constant at 8%
Household savings Under Bush 2 1981 to 1988 up from 2% to 3% then dropping back to 2%
according to Bureau of Economic Analysis.See Figure 1 of https://www.policyarchive.org/bitstream/handle/10207/2642/RL33168_20051118.pdf?sequence=1
But the savings rate according to Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System. See figure 2 https://www.policyarchive.org/bitstream/handle/10207/2642/RL33168_20051118.pdf?sequence=1
is more telling
Household savings Under Carter 1977 to 1981 down from 14% to 12%
Household savings Under Clinton 1992 to 2000 down from 10% to 1%
Household savings Under Reagan 1981 to 1988 up from 12% to 15%
Household savings Under Bush 1 1988 to 1992 down from 12% to 9%
Household savings Under Bush 2 1981 to 1988 up from 1% to 6%
I support the War in Iraq and McCain policies
McCain said he will continue the War on Terror until it is won.
Both democrat and republican unanimously supported the War.
I will not screw over the Iraqi people by leaving prematurely because democrats are stupid.
Polling data show that a large majority want the US gone but only when the job is done.
The risk to the world economy from a middle East apocalypse is to great to leave.
I support health system reform and McCain policies.
Specifically, John McCain Will Work With States To Establish A Guaranteed Access Plan which is the more cost effective and patient responsive solution over a grandiose national health care plan.
I support elimination of ethanol subsidies and McCain policies.
John McCain Will End Policies That Contribute To Higher Transportation And Food Costs. Ethanol subsidies, tariff barriers and sugar quotas drive up food prices and hurt Americans. Ethanol has been the biggest hoodwink of the American consumer by environmentalists to date.
I can accept the remainder of McCain policies.
In particular if I have to accept AGW and a cap and trade program I prefer one like the successful acid rain trading program of the early 1990s. Also, McCain’s policy specifically addresses refocus of R&D efforts and Auctioning of Emissions Permits is deferred into the future giving a cap & trade market time to finds its own level of value. See http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/da151a1c-733a-4dc1-9cd3-f9ca5caba1de.htm
Just one point, Ethanol and its subsidies are way more of a Corn Lobby hoodwink that an environmental hoodwink. Very few in the environmental movement approve of the current Ethanol situation. It has been suggested that a more productive crop should be use and that Brazil is only successful* as they use sugarcane and not a less efficient crop like corn. I know many environmental groups were against the initial ethanol plans as they feared world food shortages. I myself do not buy the logic but it was an actual concern years ago.
King Corn is a very powerful lobby, one of the strongest.
Jim
Feel free to argue how successful Brazil has been, but their program is working for them.
Would you care to elaborate on your phrase “Obama’s and democrat’s socialist economic plans.” Which plans of his are socialist, I just want to be able to keep track.
Since when has Hope become something for sissies. Republicans use to believe in Hope for a better future. I sincerely ‘Hope’ that the Republicans will make public speeches that include phrases like that one. It should do wonders for Obama’s chances to win.
McCain seems like an inflexible bumbling old guy. Sorta like Bush. I’m not too eager to see our huge defense spending continue and the deficit grow larger.
Obama’s problem is that he’s a Democrat, simple as that. I don’t agree with the principles of the Democratic party.
I am currently undecided, leaning toward McCain. Back at thanksgiving I was talking to my brother and his girlfriend about our possibilities. I said that my top two choices were McCain and Obama. I said that if either of them were their parties nominee, I would likely vote for them. I never really expected either of them to pull it off, let alone both of them. On the one hand, I am happy that one of my top two choices is going to be POTUS. On the other, it is a tough choice.
The reason that I like McCain and Obama is that they seemed to be the two most likely to be able to rise of this partisan bickering and work with the “other side”. A lot, for me, is going to depend on how the two candidates run their campaigns.
I assume you mean because of the Hispanic vote (since Richardson is actually governor of New Mexico, not Arizona)…and I think I disagree with you there, at least as far as the Hispanics are concerned. I was reading something the other day (I think on CNN) that was saying that now things have been decided between Hillary and Obama that a lot of Hispanics are shifting their support to Obama and that the whole Hispanic vs Black thingy isn’t really materializing. What the author of the article was saying (he was a Hispanic himself) is that it wasn’t so much hostility against Obama that was making Hispanics vote for Hillary as it was simply that they liked Hillary and the ‘Clinton brand’ (paraphrase) better…and now that it’s decided they are switching to Obama.
Well, I just moved hear from Nashville about a month ago, so I don’t know how everything is out here. However, Arizona’s current governor,Janet Napolitano , seems popular.
If Obama picks her for VP, then his chances of winning AZ are probably better then McCain’s are of winning Illinois.
Anecdotally, my wife is from Phoenix and adores McCain. She is strongly leaning toward Obama for POTUS.
Good news, but AZ is still a heavily Pub state, home of Barry Goldwater and national embarrassment Evan Mecham as well as McCain himself. At least, the non-Hispanic white population is heavily Pub. But it is 29% Latino, and a Latino on the ticket would really get the Hispanic voters (those who are voters, and I think most of them are actually citizens by now) to turn out in droves.