Been following this thread just out of interest, but I had to interject: I can’t even see a man at 500 yards!
Which, of course, is why I’m much more proficient with handguns than rifles!
I forgot to say in my earlier post that I have had a concealed carry permit for many years but almost never bother actually lugging one around. It’s a PITA.
The last time I carried, for a week or so, on and off, was because I got a new handgun and holster and wanted to break the holster in (like breaking in a new pair of shoes) and to get a feel for the rig as a whole. Once that was accomplished it went back in the safe except for the occasional shooting session.
I was shooting at paper targets - this was on qual days. Here’s a picture showing the three targets used for USMC rifle qualification. At 500 yards, that target (on the far right) can be completely hidden behind the front sight post of the M-16.
Interesting back-and-forth about the accuracies of the M-14 and M-16. From Wikipedia’s page on the M-14,
http://www.chuckhawks.com/camp_perry.htm
From a guy who attended Camp Perry and likes .30 caliber.