Do you believe the Steele dossier? Do you think Trump got peed on?

The only thing we have at this point is the reported testimony from Keith Schiller (Trump’s Bodyguard) that:

And then Comey saying that Trump told him:

It appears that at least one of these guys is either misremembering it, or outright lying about it…

It is somewhat unlikely that 100% of the dossier is true, but I believe the majority of it will eventually be proven true. Maybe 80% will be proven true, 15% not proven either way, and 5% will be proven false. I’m sure Steele did the best he could, but there is the possibility that some of his sources could have been mistaken, exaggerated, or outright lied.

As far as the pee goes, I believe it happened. It isn’t that he has urolagnia, the key thing in this story is that it was on a bed that Obama slept in. In Donald’s sick mind, Obama tainted the White House by being black, and this urinating where he slept was a bit of catharsis for him. It was almost like a ritual to exorcise the black demon from leaving his personal essence at that particular spot.

It certainly possible. Trump is an immature bully, and he would see this as an attack on Obama.

Also, it’s entirely possible that the hookers and/or their Russian intelligence pimp were the once to suggest the pee pee show. Russian intelligence is famous for using compromising videos to embarrass/blackmail targets and they are also famous for collecting intel on anyone who might have value. Trump as a rich and prominent American business man would certainly qualify.

“Don’t try nothing funny, have film of you with duck.”

I do!

My personal (unproven) belief is that the sexual blackmail the Russians have on Trump involves Trump sleeping with underage girls, sleeping with unwilling girls and/or sleeping with a girl who is dressed up to look like Ivanka.

Peeing on the bed is probably the least of his worries in his sexual life.

I believe it because it’s plausible, but I also don’t care because his personal morals, fetishes, and peccadilloes are not relevant to his job. What IS relevant is his capacity to set up an administration that allows him to execute the duties of his office efficiently and without meaningful distraction. He has not been too successful at that, and it is for that I fault him.

Or pissed in, because then you know you’ve been screwed!

That he has used hookers in his life? Possible, though I doubt it’s been terribly difficult for him to get sex for free (or, at least, a good dinner).

That he got peed on in this specific instance?

Doubt it. According to Wolff’s book, he didn’t know what a “golden shower” was. He had vanilla sex according to Stormi. Plus I don’t think one would ask the FBI to investigate it if it actually happened.

That’d be like me going to the FBI and saying “Hey, can you look into the rumor that I’ve ever copied a VHS tape of Show Girls? I’d really hate to get that maximum 5 years of prison and/or $250K fine.”

What’s the difference between a garbanzo bean and a chickpea? Trump has never had a garbanzo bean on his face.

Being able to “get sex for free” has nothing—zero—to do with whether someone is likely or unlikely to have hired a sex worker.

There are also folks who bring up such an argument in rape cases. Same thing there—whether or not you can “get sex for free” has no bearing on whether it’s likely or unlikely that you raped someone.

I feel like most are ignoring this part of the OP.

At this point, yes, I think Trump had the nice Russian ladies pee on the bed that Obama slept in. I believe Trump is that petty and vindictive.

Imagine that. :rolleyes:

Well, there’s the whole, “I’d let her pee on my face just so I can see where it comes from” thing. See also: Hot Lunch. Never was interested in either, but I’m a pretty dull guy.

No.
Stormy Daniels is one thing, but this seems to be out of character for him

His character is that he does whatever he wants with the belief that he is immune fr many accountability. There’s certainly nothing we know about him that makes this story unlikely, not even his supposed status as a germophobe, which we really only have his self-serving word for.

I care inasmuch as I believe we the public should know if there is significant potential that our president may be blackmailed, now or in the future. That is a serious goddamn situation.

I considered that. But the man seems to have no shame so I’m not sure the morality scandals could leverage him. His financial dealings, on the other hand, could maybe leverage him. And I do care about that stuff.

I can imagine it happening even if he is a germaphobe. It all depends on what was the last advice he heard right before the episode.

The point is surely that if true, it would absolutely have been set up and filmed. That’s the problem.