That’s what I wanna say, too. The dirty dishes just wanna get clean. Doesn’t matter who does them.
Anyway, I don’t think you can get a really meaningful, healthy relationship with this sort of attitude. If you’re always thinking that women are inferior and relegated to certain sort of work, how can you ever really respect your mate? But that may be what floats your boat, I dunno.
Sure. But they don’t take up 100% of my time. I manage to do them, work on my fiction, relax, and still do the dishes most days. Dishes take about 15 minutes. Is that so onerous?
Part of a relationship is helping out your partner. You’re supposed to think of someone other than yourself, or why have anyone?
ther’s no question that women are inferior to certain kind of work
i’m no good when it comes to computer science my self, but men are ususally much better at it than women
:dubious:
A repeat of the request for your age?
i am with Minotaurus :eek:
it is clear that real men go out to hunt and real women stay at home and try to make fire by rubbing two sticks together
men are stronger so it is men who should fight sabretooth tigers and women should dig pits for poop
if a man does not have a woman then there is no way to wash his clothes but real men smell strong and other real men know this and they are happy together
real men dont need punctuation because they dont have anything worth saying except that if brute force does not solve the problem you are not using enough of it
I’m getting the feeling maybe, with all the time on his hands, he’s been eating too much lately?
Y’know, not to make any accusations, but… maybe we shouldn’t be feeding him?
I’m single and live alone. Someone has to wash the dishes, do the laundry, change the toilet paper, etc. In my case, I’d say gender is irrelevant. No matter what gender I happen to be, if I don’t do it, it doesn’t get done.
I will say this. The women I know wouldn’t think a man who uses poor grammar, and doesn’t cook, or do his own dishes and laundry is very attractive. They’re looking for a partner, not a master.
Minotaurus, you’ve told us what you consider woman’s work. What do you consider man’s work? How much time does man’s work require compared to woman’s work?
You’ve also said that you think the women’s movement has gone too far during the past 20 years or so. Thirty years ago, my mother mowed the lawn, not because it was man’s work or woman’s work or because my father wouldn’t, but because she liked to do it. She also, by the way, cooked and cleaned. What do you make of her?
That’s not true!
And then in the past 10 - 15 years, there’s been a backlash against that ideology, a certain revelry in “political incorrectness”, which has it’s root in a brand of “masculinity” which is defined by oafish petulance against them uppity women, and came more or less from extreme troglodytes.
This one takes the cake. You speak in complete ignorance. Computer Science is a field that has allowed Women to excel and prove themselves long before equal rights. I take you have never heard of Grace Hopper. The first female Flag officer in the USA. Women have done extremely well in Computer Science for many decades now. My wife is a Software Engineer for AT&T. In most of my Programming jobs, the IT/MIS staff has been about half female. I doubt you could find any reports or statistics to back up your statement. The only thing I have ever heard is some woman avoid Computer Science because it seems “too geeky”.
Jim {I had too respond, just in case anyone believed his statement}
Seems to me you are at least pointing the finger. But I’m not junior-modding and really don’t care.
Besides, he’s come back, he’s responding calmly, and stating his viewpoints, so I don’t think he fits under that category. As long as he continues to respond calmly I see no reason why we can’t engage him.
There’s special websites for that. 
Besides, Siege, darling, I don’t think he’s looking for the type of women you and I might know. I think he’s looking for the kind of women we are trying to edumacate and bring into the Century of the Fruitbat (or whatever it may be).
P.S. I still have some salts and candles and just luuuurve them to death. Thanks again. I think of you whenever I use them.
WTF? Of course I do “women’s work.”
Deep down I know that it’s against nature for someone without ovaries to scrub the toilet bowl and tidy the kitchen, but since I’ve grown rather attached to doing proper men’s work, (especially the penetrative kind,) I swallow my masculine pride and just do it.
Obviously.
People, I think Minotaurus is just baiting us. Toss out a moronic, sexist statement and sit back and watch the fireworks, right buddy? Or else he’s trying to commit suicide by Mod.
C’mon, Mino. You’re not really of that mindset, are ya?
Except he must be disappointed as we’re all responding calmly and rationally. 
Considering his other posts (like this and this), I think Minotaur is just happy for the attention.
And here I am contributing to it! :smack:
wrong
i was curious what most men here thought about these things
most seams to disagree with me
I’m still curious about the age of the OP, myself.
As for me, whatever work I do is “women’s work,” because I’m a woman. I do the things I know how to do. That means I don’t do yard work, because I have always been really bad at yard work, even though I have been attempting to do it for years. I can rake fairly decently, but that’s about it. Other than that, everything is fair game. Of course, right now I don’t have a yard, so I don’t have to worry about that.
Ahhh… so this is how Louis Leakey felt.
In my view, real men don’t go around making pronouncments about what “real men” can or cannot do.
And if you have to point out that you’re a “real man” then you probably aren’t.
:dubious:
Sure it is – I actually get some of my best story ideas while doing the dishes. It’s a good place to plot stories and work out scenes. Barry B. Longyear once even wrote a story about it.