http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/16/people.troyleegentry.ap/index.html
I have always despised pop country, and thus have never given a shit about Montgomery-Gentry, so I hope this incident will destroy Gentry’s career. I hope his listeners will see him for what he is: a fake-assed hat-act country wanna-be who’s sick enough to purchase a tame bear, lock it in a pen, kill it, and then try to make it look like it was a fair-chase kill.
Fucking scumbag.
If evidence is produced to support these charges (too little know so far) I would agree; you’d have to be some kind of sick fuck to kill a tame bear that has come to look on humans as friends to be trusted. And in a pen no less.
According to the linked article, the crime carries a maximum penalty of $20,000 and 5 years in prison.
A more fitting penalty would be five minutes in a prison cell. With a hungry bear. Go ahead, Montgomery. We’ll even let you bring your cutesy bow and arrows.
Motherfucker. :mad:
If he’s actually done this, I just don’t get the guy.
Hunting is mostly done for the mixed reasons of sport + enjoyment of game meat that one can’t typically buy at the butcher’s or local supermarket. The type of person who needs to inflate his own ego (and I’m guessing obscure his lack of hunting acumen) by paying $4500 to kill a tame, captured bear and videotape it to show others is despicable.
He does something morally reprehensible to try and help present himself as a big game hunter, and/or to get whatever sick thrill one gets at killing a tamed animal who is penned, yeah, I do hope his career is destroyed and he gets the maximum penalty for this. I doubt either will happen.
Just wait until Ted Nugent gets a hold of this story.
Why all the anger? This isn’t an endangered species. There is no reason to believe the animal suffered.
If this had been a captive raised pig or a chicken that was shot would anyone care? After all thousands of captive-raised pigs and chickens are slaughtered in this manner every single day in the US alone. I’ve done it myself more than once.
Are you are all angry simply because this is a bear? Why is a bear substantially different to a pig?
I just don’t get it. The guy’s probably broken some law by registering a fake hunting trophy but I can’t bring myself to feel rage, much less suggest he should be mauled to death. I really can’t see much difference between this event and Oasis inventing a childhood of gang membership and street crime that never existed. In both cases the singers were trying to manufacture an image that they are obviously incapable of meeting in real life. It is just marketing.
Can someone please explain which of the following are the reasons for all the anger? Or add another to the list?
Someone killed a tame animal in a painless manner. Been there, done that, ate the sausages? So what?
Someone killed a bear that they didn’t want to eat? Hundreds of bears are killed by hunters every year and never eaten. Why the outrage in this instance?
A singer is manufacturing an image that has nothing to do with reality in order to appeal to his fans? While I personally think this is pathetic and dishonest it hardly justifies having Mick Jagger, Liam Gallagher or Vanilla Ice torn apart by a bear.
Someone singer killed an animal just to manufacture an image? How is this any different to every singer who has ever worn leather clothes? Why aren’t you all outraged at every rock act of the last 50 years?
I thought it said he killed it with a bow and arrows?
Vanilla Ice being torn apart by a bear? No justification is necessary.
This I just don’t get. The guy is obviously trying to manufacture a " redneck country boy" image. That’s understandable for a country singer. So how is spending $4,500 to produce that image any different to Paris Hilton spending $5, 000 on a miniature dog as part of her image? Or Fiddy Cent spending $5, 00 on bling as part of his image? Or Jessica SImpson spending $5, 000 on designer shorts as part of her image?
I must be missing something here. Entertainers have been spending inordinate amounts of money on their image for decades. This isn’t anything new.
Is it just that this person decided to kill an animal as part of his image? Is that what people are objecting to?
Shooting it with a bow and arrow is painless? Where’d you get that from?
You eat pet animals that’ve been given names? Really? Sounds pretty sick to me.
A lot of people are against shooting wildlife for sport, especially when no use is made of the dead animal (for food, clothing etc.). It seems like wanton waste to many. And it’s been brought up enough times on this board for it to be clear that it’s not just “this instance”.
I am unaware that these people have killed tame animals to boost their images. Granted, death seems an overly extreme penalty in the case of the bozo cited in the OP. Contempt, a severe career setback (and a hefty fine) will suffice.
You could make a case that Paris Hilton also engages in cruelty to animals by treating them like accessories. But other than that, what you’re talking about is people spending/wasting their own money. Nobody else and nothing else is harmed by that.
Judges? ::ding ding ding:: I think that’s a yes! Was this some big mystery to you?
See, where you’re going wrong in this argument is by comparing one hateful celebrity to three other, equally hateful celebrities. You aren’t convincing anyone that Troy Lee Gentry doesn’t deserve to be fed to a bear, you’re just demonstrating that we’re going to need more than one bear.
It did. Are you suggesting that being shot through the heart or brain with a quarter-pound titanium hunting point is less instantly fatal than the same wound delivered by a 3 gram solid slug?
Let’s be clear here, if there was any evidence of unnecessary pain involved he should, and AFAIK would, be charged with that. But he wasn’t. The death was painless as far as anyone knows. Even a the most useless bowman would be able to manage a clean heart or head shot on a caged bear.
Hell, I would pay good money for the DVD.
Maybe we could produce a compilation: Vanilla Ice torn apart by a bear, Marky Mark mauled by wild boars, Snow being lowered into a shark feeding frenzy, Betty Boo being fed to tigers. Could do better that “Girls Gone Wild”.
Years of bow hunting experience. Watching several pigs being killed by wooden bows and stone-tipped arrows in New Guinea.
Whatever makes you think it wasn’t painless? And whatever makes you think an arrow wound to a vital organ is more painful than a bullet wound?
So it’s the fact that someone, somewhere, once upon a time named it that is the issue? Can you explain why this makes difference? Do you check to make sure that all the meat you eat has never been named?
There are hundreds of bears shot every year, and numerous celebrities who hunt. So why does this one get a pit thread and all this outrage?
So it is the fact that an animal has been killed for the image that is being objected to? So the same out5rage is directed at, for example, Axel Rose or Britney Spears for wearing leather as part of their image?
Yeah. I don’t get it.
You don’t object at all to singers manufacturing a false image to make money.
You don’t object at all to people (eg butchers ) killing animals to make money.
But for some reason you object (to the point of wishing death) to singers killing animals to manufacture a false image to make money?
Can you explain that for me? Killing animals for profit is fine. Manufacturing a false for money is fine. But don’t combine them?
Because he makes hunters look bad. It’s not really my thing, but my boyfriend, several of my friends, and most of my family hunt. In fact, I heard about this from some of those friends of mine, and they’re pretty pissed.
To them, hunting is the sport, excitement, and challenge already mentioned. If all they wanted was the trophy, they could easily buy one.
Don’t kill animals for stupid reasons. If you want to do something for a stupid reason, leave things that feel pain out of it.
I think it’s a stretch to believe that this complete moron killed the bear with one good shot with an arrow. His ability with a bow is probably similar to mine: None.
Do I honestly suggest that this fuck probably didn’t make a clean kill? Yeah, I do honestly suggest that.
It angers me because what he did is despicable on many levels:
He destroyed a game animal in a deceptive and extremely cowardly manner, with the specific intent of making it seem as if what he was doing took the balls to shoot a wild bear in its native habitat.
He did so for purely wasteful purposes. Nobody needed the food from the bear, and I’ll bet my ass he didn’t feed someone with it. And yes, I object to hunting purely for trophies.
He destroyed the animal for no other purpose than to manufacture an image for himself. That’s despicable.
He killed the bear in a way that reminds me of the computerized “canned hunts” where the gun is attached to a webcam, and the “hunter” pulls the trigger by clicking a mouse.
Hunting is not the same as stockyard killing. PETA might differ, but really…
Hunting is an act in which the hunter reconnects to his or her most ancient nature. Especially bowhunting. One simply has no idea how hard it really is to feed oneself until one has gone bowhunting. It’s what we did for many, many thousands of years, and it has deep connections to what we as humans really are. In fact, I’ve come to believe that all meat-eaters should feel a moral obligation to hunt and kill their own dinner at least once, to understand what kind of respect the act of the hunt engenders in most hunters, and what it means to kill. What Gentry did was disrespectful to the act of hunting, to bowhunters in general, and to everyone he intended to deceive.
And to anyone who thinks the above is sanctimonious prattle: blow me. 
Because he did not hunt the bear.
I tend to agree with Blake. While initially angry as everyone else after reading the article…(as I was when finding out about SlickDick Cheney’s “hunting” caged birds), it occurs to me that slaughtering a cow, chicken, or fish, or even an insect is no different. Why to people needlessly squish spiders for example? For the most part they dont harm people and mind their own business.
So, in short, I think Blake is right. The guy is clearly a non-contributor to society in general, both by his taste in music and chosen kinds of activities, but that is in no way deserving of death by mauling. His actions were illogical and his behavior, if encouraged, is probably not beneficial to society so he should be fined to make an example, although, killing a spider is pretty much the exact same thing…and I wouldnt suggest a $50,000 fine for that.
Ah yes, and I meant to address this: if you think that hitting a vital organ on something as big as a moving bear (pacing back and forth at even a moderate pace) is easy, even at short range, then I’m going to have to call bullshit on your “years of bowhunting experience” claim. Getting a perfect heart shot (brain shot? Be serious.) when the bear is in the correct position (hunter-side forefoot forward, otherwise the arrow hits the leg) is difficult at best.
And if the bear was still or lying down (or God forbid, approaching what it thought was a trustworthy human,) then what he did is even more despicable.
Oh, and a quarter pound titanium point? WTF? Do you have any idea how much titanium that would be? Pretty much the biggest “standard” broadhead point weighs in at 150 grains…which, far from being a quarter pound (4 oz), is a mere 0.342 ounces. The 125-grain points are much more common. In other words, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
So you are saying that making hundreds of millions of dollars is a stupid reason, insufficient to justify killing animals?
Can we take it then that you object to butchers, pest controllers and veterinarians, since they kill animals for even smaller sums of?
So in one breath you admit you have a complete ignorance of what a bow is capable of, and in the next you say that you can calculate the probability of someone you have never met killing a bear with one good shot?
Forgive me for being sceptical of your ability to calculate those odds from a basis of total ignorance of both the person and the equipment.
Based on your self-confessed total ignorance of both the shooter and his equipment. Aren’t we supposed to be here to fight ignorance?
I think the fact that nobody can give a rational explanation for the outrage they are feeling shows this up for what it is: a purely emotional response based in large part on guilt.
Killing is fine. Killing for profit is fine, killing tame animals is fine, manufacturing false images is fine. But don’t you dare combine those things or somehow you deserve to to be torn to pieces by a bear.
Feh. I think that killing for profit is fine. I think that killing a a tame animal is fine. I think that manufacturing a false image is dishonest and despicable. What this jerk did was wrong because it is is dishonest, not because of anything else, and no more wrong than what is done by most other singers. I certainly don’t see why he should be killed for it.
Ogre if that is your point of view that’s fine, at least you’re being honest about it and are admitting it’s a largely irrational personal prejudice concerning who should have the right to kill what, how and for what reasons. This singer has differing personal views on those issues which I assume you will accept are just as valid as your own. At least I hope you aren’t suggesting killing people because they hold different opinions.