Obviously not all of them are bad (lots of white baby boomers are good people), but most brainwashed, pathologically selfish right wingers are white people over age 50.
So do I have hope? Yes, but not until the 2030s or so. By then many of the angry, brainwashed white nationalist voters will be dead and replaced by millennials and minorities. My hope is that from the 2018-2030 period the dems can win one house of congress or the presidency long enough to stop the GOP from doing too much damage. The GOP having both houses of congress and the presidency is a pretty big problem that has to be blocked.
Not all, but enough to move the overton window.
But I could be wrong. America is getting more and more insane with time, not less.
I’m on a crowded train. Suddenly, one guy bellows like an elephant, takes a massive shit in his pants, reaches in with both hands and starts flinging it in every direction. Instead of tackling him or even being angry, about half of the passengers just smile and nod. A few even clap and cheer and egg him on. They point around at me and anyone else who looks indignant and laugh like it’s the funniest thing they’ve ever seen, even though their faces are spattered with the same shit.
At the next stop, the insane guy gets off. There’s shit everywhere— on the ceiling, on the windows, and all over every man, woman and child in the train car. Some passengers are livid or near-catatonic, unable to believe or process what just happened, but others chuckle and shake their heads and go back to reading their books and phones and tablets, all dripping with shit.
No, I would not characterize myself as especially sanguine about the course of the United States at this moment.
Yeah. This is nothing compared to the 60s either. Major political figures assassinated. Big parts of American cities being burned down nearly every summer. Anti-war demonstrations and the war still escalating. On top of it all the Cold War with the very real possibility of Armageddon.
This is an ugly time politically to be sure. Trump I think is clearly weakening the US’s standing in the world as well as the integrity of our government. But we’re not going to be taken over by fascism, nor are we going to slide into a civil war.
As already mentioned, the Civil War era, Great Depression, WWII, and the height of the Vietnam conflict arguably were worse times for the Union. The current period is more related to the potential than the actual, but that doesn’t mean the OP shouldn’t be concerned. Shodan.
Donald Trump remains easily the most vicious, incompetent, day-to-day utter dickhead to have held the office of President since I’ve been alive (1954). Nevertheless, I’m waiting for the first mass arrests of journalists, or declaration of martial law, or aerial bombardment of North Korea, or postponement/cancellation of a major election, before I really start crapping out bricks. With that said, the next couple of years do not exactly have me overflowing with confidence for the Nation.
Yes. Thats called American politics 101. Whites are more republican than non-whites.
I fully stand by my statement. Many of the most rabid, amoral, brainwashed, radicalized, misinformed, arrogant, proto-fascist right wing extremists I’ve met are white people over 50. More men than women, but tons of women in that group. There are non-whites and people under 50 in that group, but those 2 demographics play a big role.
As they die of old age, the country will get better just like America got better when the defenders of segregation in the south died of old age.
You know, this is true, and I hear this a lot (and own a few guns, including the “scary looking” AR-15), but…I’m not sure about the relevance. We don’t have tanks, mortars, .50 cal machine guns, stealth fighters and bombers, hordes of grenades, light anti tank weapons like the Javelin, nuclear bombs and missiles, tons of c-4, etc, etc…in case the government gets “uppity”. Our small arms won’t matter when the Apaches are flying over our heads.
Younger people are more non-white. Also if you look at the exit polls, younger white people aren’t as right wing as their parents.
There is no telling what will happen long term. But I’m assuming as the most radicalized, arrogant, misinformed, protofascist voters die off and are replaced, the US’s politics will become more sane and responsible.
I hope.
As an example, take Roy Moore.
Women under 45 prefer Jones over Moore by 49 points, women over 45 prefer Jones by 11 points. Hopefully there is a generational shift and the pro-Trump, pro-Moore aspects of the GOP die of old age before they can do too much damage to America.
Meh. We’ve been through a lot in 241 years. Hell, we survived Nixon. It’ll be rough until 2021, but the tide will turn the other way. I’m not ready to go into survivalist mode yet.
The sky ain’t falling. These things go in cycles. Eventually, things will shift back in the other direction. In the meantime, the sun will continue to rise, birds will sing, grass will grow–and in some states you can smoke it if ya want. Then again, a giant asteroid may destroy the Earth and kill us all at any moment, and there’s not a damn thing anyone can do to stop it.
I would take that venomous paranoid son of bitch over Trump any day and every day. Nixon did a lot of good, though **not **enough to counter the bad things he did, but what the hell good has Trump done? Under Nixon we got the first real Nuclear Arms reduction talks, he went to China, Clean Water Act, Clean Air Act, signed into law OSHA and of all things the EPA. A republican put in the EPA? What a pinko commy liberal politician he must have been. Honestly, he may have been better than Cheney’s puppet, Bush the lesser.
Not at all. Not necessarily just because of the horrible people in charge, but I completely and utterly lost faith in the vast majority of Americans. They’ve voted in a person who on tape admitted to committing sexual assault, a grown-ass man who tried to fuck teenagers could very well win the election, Montana voters elected a politician who assaulted a reporter, churches and concerts get shot up and all a good portion of people scream is “muh guns.” Pro-lifers love to talk about abortion but don’t give a damn about children being able to go to the doctor like in every other civilized country in the world (cuz that’s socialism). You can show them on paper how Republican policy is horrid for them, but they’re so locked into their cult that they’ll continue to vote against their self-interest.
So no, no faith whatsoever. I just wish those red states would stop dragging down the civilized states.
This red state/blue state nonsense is the stupidest meme to infest the boards. You do know that each state is not a homogeneous hive mind don’t you? In some houses people disagree politically! Yet you think that a state can be characterized so simply?
Yeah, you can disagree, but it’s not a good sign when Trump voters outnumber everyone else, no? I have more sympathy for purple states. Red? Not at all. Especially states that are consistently on the wrong side of history.
