By the way, I’m glad to see that the questions I posed in the OP are almost overwhelmingly answered with a “not confusing”. I thought the German AM was being dickish, but thought there was a slight chance that grammatically things were different enough that the claim confusion could be genuine.
I’m glad to see that a few say “no way” and that for English speakers there is a comparable perception to my own.
Isn’t this a lot like France mandating that no one can call their sparkling wine “Champagne” unless it comes from the Champagne region in France? Same with various cheeses. Or is it completely different? Seems to me that Germans would have an economic interest in making sure no one was using the word “schintzel” for things that are entirely different from schintzel.
Anyway, “meatless meatballs” doesn’t confuse me so much as it infuriates me. I don’t understand why vegans have to name their food after meat. I don’t go around calling hot dogs “meat carrots” or hamburger “meat cereal”. If it is a ball of tofu, call it a tofu ball.
Cafeterias in Germany sometimes serve vegetarian chili con carne. That is often a rather confusing dish, especially since they tend to get the chili part wrong as well.
I’d rather you eat meat than buy their products, so by all means do. The faster that crap is off the market, the happier I’ll be (because there’ll be more shelf space for foods that I like).
I was specifically asking about preparations like curry and sausages and meatballs rather than plain imitation chicken or beef for a reason - exactly the reason you mentioned with the Tofurkey sausage. If a meat eater was surprised to find out those sausages were vegan, I’m guessing most people wouldn’t be able to tell if they were supposed to taste like chicken or pork or turkey or beef.
But what I’m saying is that there is a difference in the way that the vegan chicken and pork and beef and turkey and shrimp taste and in their texture. What I’m saying is that I, and occasionally even a meat eater, cannot tell them apart from the actual meat products. I have a very limited and time-diluted frame of reference; my friends and family do not, however.
So yes, there is a difference between vegan curry chicken and vegan curry beef, just as there is a difference between curry chicken and curry beef, etc.
I respect vegetarianism and vegans philosophically, this may be the easiest time in history to espouse it. Many products are made to resemble or taste similar to meat, not always successfully, and not always wisely.
Is this because some vegans miss the taste of meat but stick to principles, to impress non-vegans or convert the unconvinced, to better fit in at holidays like Thanksgiving? I don’t know.
Why would sticking to principles involve appeasing others? Vegans often consider using animal products to be morally wrong. They very well might love the taste of meat, but think it’s wrong to eat it, not unlike a converted Jewish person who loves bacon.
I have no issue with “vegan [meat style]” like Vegan sausage or vegan patties. I am less sympathetic towards “vegan [actual meat]” like Vegan chicken – but not enough so that I can muster giving a damn.
The ‘vegetarian whole turkey’ preparation is weird, but I see no reason to be offended by it (I can imagine reasons why some vegetarians might find it distasteful, but those are reasons to shun it, not reasons to ban it)
In principle, it’s no different to, say, Marzipan fruits, or that stuff Heston Blumenthal does where a ‘fried egg’ is actually mango sorbet on top of panna cotta.
Heh. One of the desserts we had this week was “fried eggs” consisting of half a preserved peach facedown atop a slice of preserved pineapple Having an actual fried egg for dessert would be much more confusing!