But does that change whether you are “a hick as compared to his hip, urban sophistication”?
Obviously, you are more insecure about perceived as unsophisticated than you are about being perceived as a brutal ogre.
And, just as obviously, you consider yourself to be above the a law.
As I mentioned in my previous post, why didn’t you just shoot him dead? I’m sure that the courts would have supported you in your justified rage.
The issue wasn’t whether or not I was/am a hick. X, in addition to his self-professed urban sophistication, liked to believe himself a hard guy who, today, would describe himself as having “street cred.” Everything about X’s behavior toward me illuminated his belief that I was unable to do anything to make him stop.
Turds like X, regardless of birthplace, are confident that they may engage in any sort of disrespectful behavior to their perceived inferiors with no repercussions. I gave him the opportunity to respond to polite requests, which he declined. Further, after that refusal, I plainly indicated to him what my response would be if the behavior continued. He definitely learned that just because you consider yourself the alpha, that doesn’t make it so.
X continued to be a dipshit to others who, for reasons to which I am not privy, endured his disrespect. He did make it a point to avoid all forms of social intercourse with me, following his beating. I fail to see where I did not benefit, though society as a whole did not.
As for shooting him dead, X was a persistently irritating, disrespectful piece of shit. That earned him a flogging, not a death sentence. There is a whole spectrum of violent responses for various situations. Shooting somebody dead is the appropriate answer in some situations. In this one, it was not.
Here’s the point: There is a whole spectrum of non-violent responses for various situations. How many of them did you explore?
In this situation, if you were charged with assault and you were sued for damages, do you think that you would win in court?
Count me in with the “Some people need an assbeating on general principle” crowd.
I think the pendulum has swung too far to the side of politeness. I am very polite to people, but I only do it because I want to be treated politely and expect to be treated politely. I think too many people shackle themselves with the rules of polite society and allow jerks and rude people to have their way.
I find myself constantly having to speak up, because too many people have been taught to not say anything or do anything.
I seem to be the only guy tell the line cutter that the he just cut in line. I’ve even had a guy try to stare me down because I confronted him about it. Of course he looked away when I stared him down.
It is a very interesting and complicated question. How should polite society deal with rude people who take advantage of the politeness?
Did you read what I posted? It seems not. I politely asked him several times to desist. I then told him to desist. I then told him what would happen if he did not desist. He chose to press onward with his behavior. I gave him multiple nonviolent opportunities to simply leave me alone.
He had the option to try to press charges. He did not. Obviously, I was willing to take my chances in court. What’s legal and what’s right aren’t necessarily gong to always be the same thing.
I think that you didn’t read my post or yours. 
We’re talking about “a whole spectrum”, right? Asking someone “several times to desist” is not a whole spectrum of non-violent responses, any more than punching someone in the face and then kicking them in the groin represents a whole spectrum of violent responses.
I guess you wouldn’t consider many other non-violent options like:
#1 and #2 require some creativity, and 3-4 are too wimpy, right?
In any case, you did not explore a whole spectrum of non-violent responses.
Sorry, but you didn’t answer my question, which was: “if you were charged with assault and you were sued for damages, do you think that you would win in court?”
X had only to leave me alone. That’s it and he’d never have received that beating.
As far as winning in court? In that time and place, yes there was a very good chance that the charges would have been dismissed.
Few people are pure dickheads. (Maybe this guy was.) I’ve seen instances of people who hated each other and then became, if not friends, then at least civil acquaintances, even when they came from very different backgrounds.
So this is about rights?? He has a right not to be physically abused.
It seems that you are incapable of answering a simple question: “If you were charged with assault and you were sued for damages, do you think that you would win in court?”
It’s quite possible that the other guy was an ass. But based on your responses in this thread, it seems that you’re far from being a saint.
So, in some ways, what goes around, comes around.
Not seriously. Sometimes, I sometimes tell a friend that I’ll smack him if he continues doing something annoying.
As a rule, I never use physical violence on anyone so weak, frail or scared that verbal abuse is sufficient.
Why, oh why do you feel the need to disparage femininity? And why is it that failing to attempt to beat the beejesus out of people necessarily feminine? Why use “feminize” as a perjorative term?
To answer the OP: I never seriously threaten physical violence (in jest sometimes to friends is another story). On the exceedingly rare occasions (all of which were self-defense situations, incidentally) I’ve found violence to be necessary, I didn’t advertise my intentions in advance.
I really don’t care to continue this conversation with you. You aren’t really interested in conversation anyway. You seem, instead, to want to lecture and admonish. I’ve read your lectures and I think you are grossly wrong. Good day.
Yeah, I wasn’t expecting this exchange to end with hugs and kisses … :rolleyes:
Tough to have a conversation when you won’t answer a simple question about *your *views on the legality of your actions.
And, FWIW, the legal system in modern civilized society says that you are “grossly wrong.”
“Get your fucking hands off me or I’m gonna break your face!”
This is self-explanatory. ain’t it? :rolleyes:
My apologies. That was a drive-by attack. Sorry if you were offended.
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