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Indeed. I’m kind shocked that folks stand to wipe and it sounds a bit disgusting to let the butt cheeks close before cleaning.
If people wipe while standing, that’s fine with me. But it’s weird that it’s a challenge for them to wipe while sitting down.
Two questions for the standers:
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Where are your pants while you’re wiping? Whether they’re above your knees or down around your ankles, I’d be worried about falling over.
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This means you’re dropping poop-laden TP into the toilet from well above the seat, instead of below it. How do you keep from occasionally getting it on the seat?
I am amused by the thread in general (and yes, to the other ladies, I find I have to clean up before standing or there is drippage).
I am more amused by Shodan’s imitation of an irate bullfrog on the issue.
This explains why so many prefer to shit in the Ganges.
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I am mystified that it’s not a challenge for the sitters. I’m almost tempted to want to see a video of how this works, but then I realize that I don’t want that. I guess a pantomime demonstration with someone fully dressed would be the ticket.
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Ankles; this has never been a problem. It’s not like I am running an obstacle course while wiping though.
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First, let me note that there is an implication of your comment that I find interesting just because the whole idea of any part of my body going below the seat is taboo. Even when I’m cleaning the toilet, I hold the handle of the toilet brush above the rim. That whole area is a “no go zone”.
Another implication is that you are not bringing the TP up after wiping to check to see how many more wipes (if any) are needed. But other sitters do say they do bring it up to check, which seems to be to be the real point of risk to get poop on the seat or on your lower body. But to answer your question, if you can’t drop a small wad of paper through a decent sized opening from directly above without hitting the sides, you must be really terrible when it comes to wastebasket basketball. That’s like missing a layup or a dunk. I mean, when you drop something gross, like the plastic wrapping that was around raw ground beef, into your kitchen trash, do you miss or do you get it right down the middle? I don’t miss there either.
Poop only. (Speaking of which, if I have to do both, I always pee before sitting down to poop.)
I just don’t think there’s a lot of difference in my butt cheeks from sitting to a wide stance stand.
When sitting on a toilet, I don’t just plop straight down as if it were a chair, I place one butt-cheek on one side, then spread to place the other butt-cheek on the opposite side, so that the spreading is maintained for as long as I sit. This greatly reduces any soilage and makes for effortless, seated wiping by simply reaching between my legs. I could see how someone with more than a few extra pounds, or someone with one of those old-school, little round toilets might have problems with reaching through that space unimpeded, though.
That’s some crappy logic :heh:
Just because you’ve been doing it a long time does not necessarily mean you’ve been doing it correctly.
I stand, by the way, like any highly evolved entity. I also continue until there’s no visible evidence of the hellish deed.
For the broader clear visual line of sight and maybe having a conversation with them if not actively watching… dozens of times. Thanks Army!
- Falling down is not an issue. I’m not walking around. I’m just standing there. I suppose if you were someone with physical issues that made balance hard or reaching around involve extra contortions more likely to throw you off balance it might be an issue it might be an issue. Without those physical limitations it’s never been an issue for me.
- Not an issue. At 6’ 1.5" I’m even taller than the majority of the population. It’s not that far down even standing straight up. Take on a bit of a wide stance and lean in just a touch and you are right there. Just stand straight up and look at the distance from your hand to the toilet seat. Now lean just enough to get your hand over the center of the bowl. In terms of wastebasket basketball it’s a slam dunk for an NBA center, completely undefended, on one of those less than regulation kids hoops.
Interesting. I’m not svelte nowadays, but my first driver’s license read 5’10", 145 lbs., and I wiped the exact same way then.
Are you saying you get one ass cheek on each side of the seat? Wow.
I do live in an old house (more than 100 years old), so it probably is what you are calling an “old school” toilet. Does this mean the seated wipe is a more recent innovation that has caught fire somehow? And what do the sitters do when visiting a home with such a toilet? It seems that between issues of being outside and on different toilets, it’s not a very versatile technique.
Only in the same way everybody does, whether they intentionally use that to spread 'em or not. It’s not like the center of each butt cheek is on both sides of the seat!
Several women have commented that they wipe while sitting, from the front. You do realize that few men could do that, because we have junk in the way? Some men, like my husband, have A LOT of junk in the way. He has to rest his junk on the seat while he poops, then stand up to wipe.
Another factor is those of us with back problems. I can’t twist around to reach the toilet roll dispenser in the wall while I sit, and I can’t bend to easily reach it when standing. So we leave the roll on top of the tank, which pretty much guarantees that anyone but a contortionist wipes while standing.
I’m being whooshed here, right? Nobody *really *stands up to wipe, do they? That’s just crazy!
And this also begs the question: are you supposed to sit or stand when using the three sea shells?
I’m a stander, and that’s what I think about you lot, as I literally cannot accomplish the act sitting down. However, as I noted upthread, it’s sitters who tend to more strongly sputter in disbelief, for some reason.
This thread is truly enlightening. For so many years I’ve puzzled over just how some of the more, um, colorful ‘accident’ scenes I’ve encountered in stalls could have possibly happened. Then I learned that some people stand up to wipe their butts. Then things clicked. Things make sense now. Ignorance fought. Thank you SDMB.
:rolleyes: Whatever. I have never left an “accident” behind in a bathroom stall.
Back to trying to understand the sitter perspective. Are any of you north of six feet and 200 lbs.? If so, what are the dimensions of your toilets? And are you reaching your hand in below the rim while still fully sitting on the seat? Because on my seat, I almost seal it off completely. The only place with any opening is in back, where I can fit a couple fingers through the gap, but not my whole hand. And again, though I am far from skinny, I am never going to be one of the ten fattest guys at Walmart at any given time, unless it’s 3:30 Tuesday morning and I’m also one of the ten thinnest.
No, I think those “colorful accidents” are from people who do EVERYTHING standing.
I am a sitter. I lift my right cheek off, as I am right handed, and arch my back a little. I’m not going straight in from behind, doing some double jointed shoulder gymnastic. I’m going in from the side, probably the 4 or 5 o’clock angle.
If I were to try standing, I can only imagine how by thinking I wouldn’t stand in the sense of straight up and down but rather remaining leaned over and straightening my knees a bit. So not a full stand, just raising my butt off the seat. A proper stand, depending on how my, um, movement went, could potentially cause a more difficult cleanup. It’s much easier, anyway, to stay seated. Also, my pants waist stays at my knees, especially in public restrooms, and staying seated keeps them there.