There was that giant bull monster thing in Conan the Valorous.
You should read Poul Anderson’s The Barbarian some day. (A short story, in an old F&SF antthology.)
Doc’s been in one fight at least in every story, which is over 150. Being a doctor, he also knows his anatomy quite well. That will be big help.
But Conan would beat him in the whoring department, that I’ll grant you.
Doc would only try to lead the whore to a reformed and wholesome life. :rolleyes:
… and if not, he’s got an upstate Crime College where he can operate on her brain…
Ah, you don’t know how long this Conan thing has been going, do you? It’s old. And people have been writing Conan stories, usually with multiple fights, for a very long time. Conan has fought pretty much everything.
That came to mind if he were able to best Conan, but he couldn’t find a saw strong enough to cut through the Giant Cimmerian’s skull.
What story was it where the er, Hyborian Bar Girl sells Conan out? When he makes it back alive, he throws her out the window into the sewer.
So, Ron Ely vs. Arnold Schwarzenegger?
I didn’t like him as Conan.
Perhaps, though, we could agree that Johnny Weissmuller could kick Ron Ely’s ass.
Regards,
Shodan
Thanks!
Surely Conan wins on dialog:
Yes, but did you like Ron Ely as Doc Savage?
I am ashamed to admit that I haven’t seen the film. I do like the look of the 30’s pulp Doc better than the 60’s Mr. Clean look, though.
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Why did Lester Dent name his hero “Doc Savage” when everything that defines the character is the complete antithesis of savagery? Is this a formation-by-contraries along the lines of Little John and Curly?
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You MUST see the film – it’s so incredibly, wonderfully bad! There used to be a website devoted to "MST3K"ing it, which is, unfortunately, gone.
They had to have made it tongue-in-cheek, but I can’t beluieve they wanted it to be as over-the-top as it was.
And, as for reforming prostitutes, look at the Salvation Army band-member playing a mean tambourine on her hip at the end. At least one other member of that band is a graduate of Doc’s upstate clinic, so there’s a chance she is, too.
How can I ignore a recommendation like that? I fear, however, that like The Cheap Detective, Mrs. Plant will be unfamiliar with the subject and believe me to be seriously disturbed.
When Conan finally becomes a king, IIRC, he (at first, anyway) rather neglects his administrative and governmental duties, and devotes himself enthusiastically to drinking, whoring and roistering.
Doc Savage modifies malefactors’ personalities through brain surgery.
Who would you rather have running a country – King Log or King Spork?
That’s not my recollection from the stories. Conan was supposedly a better king because he didn’t bleed his subjects with taxes (Conan has no taste for luxuries) and kept his nose out of their religious issues. Howard didn’t say anything about him indulging himself after usurping the throne, and, as far as I can recall, neither did any of the crew that followed (at first L. Sprague de Camp, Lin Carter, and Bjorn Nyberg, then the second wave of Karl Edward Wagner, Robert Jordan, and everyone else).
Exactly, Conan is not a dummy. It is just shows the prejudice of some people when they can’t believe that someone is both strong and smart.
In the books Conan is certainly shown as being quite smart and cunning.
My money is on the mighty thewed barbarian.
Well, I’m getting that from a condensed online bio of Conan, which I can’t seem to find at the moment. I thought it was in his Wiki page but I can’t find it there.
In the Marvel Comics version, I recall, Conan was all set to have some fun after he overthrew the king of Aquilonia, until his minister reminded him that he’d be no better than his predecessor if he wanted to reign without ruling; so Conan told the dancing girls to wait and sat down to pore over the treasury reports.
I have to give it to Conan because he doesn’t have an entourage of goofy sidekicks. The Conan stories (I’ve read only the RE Howard ones) were about Conan. The three or four Doc Savages I read were mainly about Monk and Ham, neither of whom I liked the least bit.