I think Rose’s different sounding speech was based on her having become more responsible in her role in alternate-universe-Torchwood, which was causing her accent to develop away from her casual teenager-speak.
But I also thought that after her varied roles she’s had since Doctor Who Billie just forgot what Rose sounded like. In the Confidential episode she admits she had to watch the DVDs to remind herself how Rose behaved.
The Torchwood and Doctor Who Confidentials…are they actually full half-hour ‘making ofs’ for every episode?
-Joe
Pretty much yes, but with a few minor spoilers thrown in to tempt us into watching the next episode. Not that we need to be enticed.
Are they worth watching? I download all my episodes from [unmentioned place] because I have no intention of watching edited ones a couple weeks later on Sci-Fi.
I can download Confidentials, too, I just hadn’t bothered. Maybe I’ll start.
-Joe
Am I wrong, or do I remember that in the last Christmas special, if the Titanic hit, the whole Earth would be destroyed, and not just London?
IIRC, they made a big deal about the baddie of the week being willing to sacrifice a whole planet for his own ends.
You’re right. The Titanic-comet would have leveled London, and then the drive emissions (or something toxic, anyways) would have killed off the rest of the planet.
Of course, we’re operating with some potentially bad information. Without The Doctor, it obviously still fell on Earth, but that doesn’t mean that someone on board didn’t manage to eject the warp core or something like that. Someone on board may have chosen to do that instead of gambling on getting the Big Win and stopping everything the way The Doctor does most of the time.
Just like it’s not likely that Gwen, Ianto, and Jack would have made a very good boarding party against the Space Midgets, but there it was. Maybe without The Doctor they had to be much more of a special forces team and less of a detective group.
-Joe
I’m guessing about her own age, i.e. about early to mid 20’s. She was clerking in a department store in the first episode. Piper was 22 when that episode was shot, which seems about right with the age of the character. Camille Coduri who plays Jackie is only 16 years her senior, but it’s not a stretch that Rose could be a product of a teen prgnancy. Also, Coduri looked older than 39 back in '05, I’d’ve pegged her at about my own age, about five years older, or even a bit more.
I still think Piper looked gaunt and harried, but maybe living in [del]the dungeon[/del] another dimension does that to a person.
Maybe it’s also because I don’t think she she was nearly enough Rose.
Well, she does seem to be a very different Rose, so I’m not all that concerned about it. She’s been through a lot and a whole bunch seems to have changed about her.
Works for me.
-Joe
There’s also the fact that he fought the Christmas monster thing right after he lost Rose. He was in a dark place that whole episode. He might have chosen not to regenerate when he died, the way the Master chose not to.
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Extremely good point.
-Joe
Rose was born in 1987 (the year her father died), so she was 18 when the Doctor showed up in 2005.
And Billie Piper was born in 1982 so it’s not like that was a million miles away from her actual age.
Is that canon?
Assuming Leiko isn’t just making up the dates, well, I’d guess so.
How come?
-Joe
Yup! I’m not sure when it’s first said for sure, although in “Aliens of London” (set in 2006) Rose is described as 19 years old, and “Father’s Day” (when Rose goes back to the day her father died, when she was just a baby) is set in the autumn of 1987. However, some evidence points to her being born in 1986 and being 19 when she left with the Doctor at the end of “Rose.” Then there’s the problem that an article said her birthday was 4/27, but an ad for Bad Wolf said she’s an Aries.
It’s sort of a mess, but it is agreed that Rose is supposed to be 19 for most, if not all, of her travels with the Doctor.
I have a strange suspicion that all the new Doctor Who series are actually set a year ahead of when they’re shown.
But that may be me getting confused with something else; perhaps it’s Torchwood who do that.
It is Doctor Who who does the year ahead thing (not sure for Sarah Jane Adventures and Torchwood, actually). Except for the very beginning of Rose, the “present day” Earth is one year ahead, because the Ninth Doctor accidentally brought Rose back a year after she left.
I enjoy them, plus if it’s a scary episode it helps my youngest daughter (7) to get to sleep when they explain how it was done and that the monsters aren’t real.
They are usually worth watching and tend to have a few brief interviews with the writer or director which can be interesting.
Sometimes they’ll delve back into the history of the programme when it’s relevant to the current episode - they did a retrospective of the Master IIRC.
I’m a bit late to the party. For most of the episode I honesty felt it was not awesome, but just…okay. It felt a little bit too smushed to fit the time, and a lot of it felt kind of like a recap.
Then the last thirty seconds happened and I started bouncing in my chair making little happy noises because of the turn for completely awesome. That’s the first time in possibly ever that I’ve been so blown away by the very end of something.
I have a ton of messy speculation running around in my head right now, but I can’t settle on any coherent theories about what happens next.