Yep…my news feed is still a bit clogged with it. If that was the intended message, it was very clumsy.
Next week’s episode looks interesting…I might actually watch it instead of just letting the DVR grab it.
To be fair, even the most stringent pro-choice people tend to have problems with aborting a fetus literally minutes from birth.
And if it wasn’t… still clumsy.
I am assuming that most who are posting here really hated “Despicable Me.”
Nope. But I could’ve lived with the silliness of the moon as an egg, if they hadn’t compounded it with trying to treat the effects of a moon the same mass as the earth (or one that is gone) so seriously. It was the piling up of stupidity on top of stupidity that turned me off. Like having the situation being so dangerous to Courtney, but they don’t take her back to safety. It’s not like they can’t take her back and return to the precise second that they left.
Oh, also, at one point the astronaut lady, while explaining all of the huge problems going on on Earth, said that there are “high tides everywhere at once”. If you have a third-grader’s understanding of how tides work, your head should have exploded at that.
AAAAGH! I had successfully blocked out the “high tides everywhere at once” crap and now it’s BACK! It’s BACK! Get it out of my head get out get out get out GET OUT!!!
If high tides are everywhere at once, how were they standing on a beach? Hell, I would think the volcanoes and earthquakes would do as much damage as the rising tides, but that’s just me being silly I guess.
To me, the most disappointing part of the episode was the inclusion of the false moral choice of species survivalism. Humanity should allow itself to be wiped out because to kill a (potentially) last member of a species is wrong? Really?
I get that “it’s better to die clean than to live dirty” is a valid/acceptable/understandable position on an individual basis, but on the level where the entire species is threatened with extinction… the position doesn’t make a damn bit of sense. And I can’t stand it when science fiction tries to explore and resolve this one because it usually ends up screwing the pooch. Yes, Peter F. Hamilton, I’m looking at you.
The thing that really killed me about the Doctor’s attitude is, how many extinction level events is he personally aware of happening just on Earth? Hell, the “canonical” (to the extent that means anything in this show) reason for the destruction of the Silurian civilization was the Earth capturing the moon in its orbit in the first place. That fucking space dragon has already wiped out one species!
I can’t get too worked up about the show ignoring the conservation of mass - i read to many Incredible Hulk comics to let that slow me down. But the egg laying. Okay let’s assume we have a chicken with Tardis ovaries, so it can lay an egg bigger than itself. Can you imagine what it would look like coming out? :eek: Apparently, the show runners couldn’t, which is why it happened off screen. But I’m pretty sure city girl Courtney’s reaction to it wouldn’t be half as blasé as what we saw in the episode.
Also, the Doctor is clairvoyant now? Great. I hope this is another of his “superpowers” that show up for one episode, and then are never mentioned again, like perfect recall, or breaking windows by screaming at them.
In classic Who, doctor number six (Collin Baker) destroyed a new species in order to save human lives.
Now I’m picturing a Time Lord played by Bobcat Goldtwhait.
And then was shocked when he was accused of genocide for doing so.
But do remember that this Doctor has been living for a few regenerations thinking of himself as the last of his species (the possibility of resurrecting others only recently in his consciousness and so far ignored this season.
The last of non-human non-Earth species fetish (again, also the Teller) may connect in this way to Missy is the Master speculations.
I’m torn between “Thats no moon!” and “We are gonna need a bigger vagina!”
This was a great episode, anyone who expects dr who to make scientific sense is really delusional.
I don’t expect real science from Who, and I did enjoy the ride. It’s just that I know enough science to occasionally wince.
IMO the science (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with why this was a terrible episode. Yes, it makes no sense, but whatever. Even discounting that, the false moral choices and the idea that it’s better for all life on a planet to be killed than to choose to kill an unborn creature is such bullshit. And oh, guess what, making that choice didn’t actually matter since it all worked out with both the Earth & the creature living anyway!
Personally I think Clara should have gotten some flak for going against the entirety of the Earth and not killing the thing. But I guess killing a baybee is worse than killing an entire planet (that contains millions of babies of it’s own, but…)
I didn’t see this episode as an abortion analogy. Probably because it’s a British show, and I’m pretty sure the vast majority of Brits are pro choice.
But even if it was, there are plenty of pro-lifers who are OK will killing a fetus if the mother’s life is in danger. If Doctor Who was real, then only the most ardent of pro-lifers would say that it’s better to let a baby space dragon hatch even if doing so would kill billions of people. And they would be a tiny minority.
Why the fuck are they taking a space shuttle to the moon in the first place, instead of, oh, I don’t know, something actually designed to go to the moon? They had to dig the shuttle out of mothballs and take 10 years or whatever to restore it, so why not just use that time restore (or build) an actual lunar lander? You could probably fill a thimble with all I know about real life spacecraft, but I know you can’t use a space shuttle to land on the moon.
It’s a shame that the mechanics of that episode were so monstrously stupid, because the Doctor refusing to make the choice for humanity and then clashing with Clara over it to the point where she tells him to fuck off was done brilliantly. If only they could have picked a more credible dilemma to menace to Earth with than the moon being a fucking egg that hatched a dragon that laid an egg that was - oh, fuck it.