Doctor Who Series Five: UK pace thread [edited title]

There were some really nice character moments again in this - between the Doc and Amy of course, but also the pair of them and River. Me like.

About your spoiler:

I have the advantage of watching on a big telly rather than the way you probably are ;), so it’s likely a bit clearer. River called the blue light the Doctor shoots at the Gravity <something>, and the Doctor asks them all to jump on his command. I think I can see the way this goes…

Are the Angels sick? Dunno, but I wonder if they’re feeling as annoyed as I was when the giant cartoon dancing Graham Norton banner was slapped across the Doctor’s face at the climax of the episode (at least on BBC1 in England) :mad:

Doctor Who Confidential has a nice segment showing the actresses being made up as Angels. Amazing what the makeup & costume folks can do. They also showed how Amy’s eye effect was done.

confidential briefly shows what happens after the gun goes of. The actors were really having a laugh jumping up. No gravity. :wink:

I heard about that. BBC 1 Scotland didn’t, thank goodness. That’s the second time something Norton-related has interfered with Doctor Who. Someone left his mike live, from the preceding show, over the first few minutes of the first showing of “Rose”, in some regions anyway. :eek:

Theory I hadn’t considered before about who River Song might be, judging by the very very cool opening sequence:

River Song is a Time Agent, just like Captain Jack Harkness (who first appeared in a Moffatt episode, and also had a squareness gun/sonic blaster).

Charlie Brooker posted a scathing (quel surpris!) comment about the Norton banner on his Twitter: “Why don’t the BBC just wipe shit all over the screen during the final scene of Dr. Who next week?” <3 Charlie.

So that’s what the talking over *Rose *was! I must have been in one of the affected areas; I recall being quite baffled at the time.

That was a great episode, and it flew by. I wasn’t expecting the ending credits right then.

Kudos to Amy for not wasting too much time getting to what everyone wants to know: “You’re so his wife!”

At least River didn’t react when she met Amy the way she did Donna. Poor Donna was doomed. River seems pretty impressed with Amy.

“And then they started having laws against self-marrying, but that’s the church for you. No offense Bishop.”
“Quite a lot taken, if that’s all right Doctor.” :slight_smile:

Promo for the 2nd part next week.
It looks even scarier then the first part. :cool:

http://www.tvovermind.com/doctor-who-tv-news/promo-doctor-who-5-05-flesh-and-stone/22691

The actors playing the Angels deserve credit for standing so still. I don’t know how they do it in those poses.

This is so my new wallpaper! Go River!

A strong episode in what is shaping up to be a strong season. Loved the pre-titles scene, and Amy’s encounter with the Angel. I like this director, the same guy who did the first episode. Both the episodes have a cinematic feel to them, a cut above most Doctor Who episodes.

I’m intrigued by the Amy character. There is something going on with her that is not apparent yet. I don’t just mean the crack in the wall that keeps reappearing… she seems strangely calm and knowing about all this time-travel malarkey and death-defying adventure. Could just be bad writing, I suppose.

The River Song/Time Traveler’s Wife thing is a great Moffatesque plot idea. There’s so much you could do with characters whose future is each other’s past. But I saw in an interview with Moffat that they are going to wrap the River Song story up this season “in a satisfying way”, so perhaps he doesn’t want to have it run and run. Probably a good thing.
Back on the previous episode, the Dalek one (because I have only just caught up with the series so far), I thought the first 15 minutes or so were excellent, with the Daleks creeping around the bunker and acting all innocent when the Doctor tried to expose them. It then seemed that the writer remembered that he was under instructions to (a) introduce the new improved Daleks and (b) somehow, some way, have a Spitfires-in-space scene. I think that kind of “write an episode around some cool ideas” approach has been a weakness of the show, and it rarely works. Sure enough this episode went badly off the rails once the Daleks left the bunker.

Agreed. I could sense the end of the episode coming in a narrative sense, but the front of my brain was thinking, “No way in hell it’s been forty minutes. Can’t be ending yet.”

I’m proud to say that as soon as they mentioned that the natives had two heads I figured out what was going on.

I just had it backwards - I thought the angels were turning the statues into angels.

Question on Amy - was it all mental? I know her hand going to stone was, but how about the concrete dust pouring out of her eyes?

-Joe

If the stone hand was all in her head, I see no reason to think that the eye dust wasn’t. But I guess they were suggesting that by looking into the Angel’s eyes, Amy is perhaps now part-Angel?

It’s an episode that certainly repays a further watch, basically because just about every line is golden. I missed “It would be good, it would be very good if we could all remain calm in the presence of decor” and “What! Have you got space teeth?” the first time round.

It took the second viewing to even begin to grasp what the Doctor was wibbling on about with "A needle that looks like hay. A hay-like needle of death. A hay-like needle of death in a haystack of…statues. " :stuck_out_tongue:

Irate fans blasted the Beeb for it too.

There’s always been something charming about Dalek malevolence but seeing them offering tea and carrying files was pretty neat :smiley:

Yup, sent in my complaint form shortly after airing, a strongly worded letter, of course, and signed from a doctor (me! :p)

Crackerjack episode; I do like how Stephen Moffat is slowly but surely making everything in the world a source of terror to the kiddiewinks – including Mummy and Daddy themselves (consider when Dead Bob tells the doctor that, despite the Doctor’s reassurances, he died alone, frightened, and in pain.)

Well the new series finally seems to have found its feet. This episode was good and unlike the last couple lacked any glaring contradictions.

I enjoyed the interation between River Song, the Doctor and Amy, hopefully we will get a few “spoilers” as to what lies in their future.

The bit about the Doctor using museums to keep score was very funny and the Weeping Angels were on form and quite scary.

Let’s hope that Moffat can keep up this level of skill for the rest of the series.

Caught it at last, much much better than previous offerings this season.

The Doctor seemed more Doctorly, the pacing was spot on and the story didn’t jump or meander, it seemed to possess that all important internal consistency.

Best one of the series so far I agree. One question however, why don’t they just smash the Weeping Angels into tiny pieces while looking at them?

Wasn’t there something about the angels being some kind of “quantum” entity and this was just their manifestation in our dimension? I’m pretty sure that they addressed the problem that they couldn’t be destroyed by conventional means either in Blink or this episode.

Actually, if the angels were of that nature, it might make more sense of the changing video recording, and the “holographic angel” Amy saw in front of the monitor.

Okay, maybe sense is the wrong word, but you know what I mean.

Not sure - they made a reference to the angels as being something that can’t die, but we don’t know how physically resistant they are. Does that mean they can’t be smashed to pieces? Or that doing so has no effect? We’ll probably find out next week.