(Since these are all just speculations I don’t understand the spoiler box …)
I’d vote for them just using different takes this time even though I agree with the basic arc speculations and do think that the Doctor in the forest with Amy wearing the jacket was intentional - and more in tone like the Doctor at the end of this episode: Amy remembering will somehow be key to undoing or preventing major revisions/collisions of different timelines.
I like River Song but the way its been written she would have to pop into his life over many years. I don’t see them doing that. I suspect that she’s going get relegated to another timeline (like Rose sort of).
Oh yeah, when Amy starts talking about “unpopulated” areas of planet Earth, what’s the first one in the list? The Australian outback… where people have been continuously living since Europe was covered by glaciers and long before any humans got to the Americas.
I’m certain it wasn’t intentional, but it actually worked quite well in the plot as an example of human ignorance and arrogance when dealing with other humans, let alone another species… probably best for all concerned if the lizards do go back into hiding.
“Unpopulated” is relative. Nowhere she listed is truly unpopulated, but they are very empty and would arguably suit a cold blooded race of people, as opposed to the only truly unpopulated area in the world, Antarctica.
Which is exactly the kind of reasoning that has led to whole cultures getting wiped out in the recent past. Unpopulated isn’t “relative” if you have relatives that live there.
You know, how populated is your home? One resident? Couple of people? Seems like a statistically insignificant number to me, I think I’ll just bulldoze that vacant land and build an apartment block there.
Wow. You seem to have extrapolated the worst case scenario out of a few words. They were looking for places to house a race of millions. Can you suggest anywhere, off the top of your head, that would work for the cold blooded? It was a negotiation, after all, and they were just putting forward some options; nowhere did anyone suggest removing those who were already living there.
In Australia, the population of the Outback areas seems to number around 300,000, which in an area of that size is about 1 person per 20 square kilometres. That is empty enough for housing a new population.
Also keep in mind it’s just a Science Fiction kid’s TV show.
Which is why I mentioned it: the writers accidentally managed to provide a perfect example of why it was a good idea for the lizard people to go back into hibernation.
Human beings - as you yourself just perfectly demonstrated - are quite comfortable with the idea of other human beings being classified as unimportant and having their rights ignored. You just classified a whole lot of my countrymen as insignificant. And you just offered a whole lot of my country’s valuable territory to a bunch of Lizard-people, without even taking the time to learn whether there’s anything valuable there or not. (HINT: there is.)
Going to war with the Lizard People will have to wait, first we’re going to war with you.
OK, now do you get it? That’s why the Silurians are better off going back into hibernation: Because humans aren’t, in general, humanitarian enough to respect the rights of other human beings, let alone another sentient species.
You’re saying “There are no empty places, because wherever you go populations already live there,” and I’m saying “If you need space for people, you first check the obvious large empty areas to see if they might, or might not, work. You have to start somewhere, and it’s a good beginning step.”
You think my reasoning is selfish; I think your reasoning is unrealistic.
I don’t know where you get the idea that allowing someone to live somewhere means you are treating the other residents as being insignificant. Do you think that, if you get a new neighbor, your rights are not being respected? That’s the general thrust of GuanoLad’s interpretation.
The only right I think you could be talking about is the right to own land, and, really, all private land is leased from the government (as, without that government, your ownership claim would be worthless), And I see no reason that government ought not to be able to buy out that lease.
How many Silurians are we talking? A million? With high technology? Northern California. No prob. Fit right in. Inter-species dating and marriage, right around the corner.
And I’ll say it again; there are no large empty areas on planet earth. Everywhere is owned by someone.
Owned. The inhospitable places that you seem to believe are vacant wastelands are, in most cases, very valuable land.
The Australian outback? That’s where our biggest industry all happens. The land itself might look worthless to you, but you might just want to check with a geologist before you start donating it to homeless Silurians.
And so on. Find me any large “empty” area on planet Earth, and I’ll find you not only a human population, but an economic, environmental, or strategic value that will exclude it from the bargaining.
Functionally, realistically, there are no large areas of vacant land on the planet.
Realistically, levdrakon has the right idea: integration into existing human societies is the way we’d have to work it.
The Silaurians attacked first. They took her son and her husband. The prisoner was also gloating about killing (or trying to) kill her father. The Silaurians were going to war and intended to kill humanity to the last. Sorry I don’t have any sympathy for them. So what if they humans were drilling on their home? They had no way to know that and no reason to expect anyone to be living down there. They were not intentionally attacking.
Put 'em in Southern California and within a week there would be a whole category of Silurian/Human porn, especially if they look like the one who was captured.
No, no place is empty, and no place is worthless. But people have their land bought from them by eminent domain all the time and “settlers” (and from the Silurian POV, any “apes” anywhere are settlers) have been moved against their will if it is thought that it serves the greater good. And probably, if given the option, few humans on the Outback (or other relatively sparsely populated areas) would choose to stay on as a minority in a Silurian majority area.
And if you were a Silurian would you want to live as a minority in an ape city? Right off? Sounds like a spin-off: “Silurian Nation”.
It seems to me that the reptiles have a perfectly good city of their own to live in. They wouldn’t need to take land above ground. As long as the humans know where not to drill, they can live as separate neigbouring nations, which allow tourists and businessmen to travel between them, under visa. No problem, as long as they respect each others’ borders.
Remember that the bulk of the reptilian population were in some form of stasis. If they were revived could the city have supported them all?
I don’t think the naming of “uninhabited” regions of the Earth was made for any specific reason other than the fact that most people woud recognise them. I did like the mention of Nevada… The Reptilians could open their own casino!