Unless you’ve got a spaceliner named the Titanic.
I had been thinking along the same lines as Walker in Eternity:
The Valyard. Not another Time Lord, this one, in his future evil incarnation, and it is the Tardis of that future time which is destroyed, not this one. And River is responsible for killing him, which while an evil version of The Doctor is still killing The Doctor … although she is already in that prison …
Still unexplained is why Amy never knew about the Daleks, and if this was all a trap created by reading Amy’s mind, how come both The Doctor and River already had knowledge of the story of the Pandorica?
Craxy speculation which can’t be true:[spoiler]If the voice is the Valyard, the penultimate Doctor, and the Tardis, in its police box form, is destroyed, could Amy actually be the final and very confused and unaware Doctor (similar to how the Master was and The Doctor had been previously) and her house, with all its extra rooms, actually be the final Tardis reformed around the eye? It even ties together his first comment about being ginger - at last he would be!
But I can’t figure a way to jibe that with her coming back next season.[/spoiler]
Well, we know this Doctor gets his TARDIS blown up. All River Song knew was that she had a painting of the TARDIS blowing up.
One thing that seems like sloppy writing (so I’ll assume it isn’t, and I’ve missed something)…if Amy’s brain has been read by one of these groups…
When did it happen? Surely we should have seen something that would ahve seen odd at the time.
-Joe
A rewatch of The Eleventh Hour, in light of what we know now, is very intriguing.
Merijeek it supposedly happened pretty just before River arrived but that was in the future and in timeline could have been past for the mind-readers’ perspective. Of course the other obvious answer is that there was an episode where someone was inside her mind and reading it, knowing all of her dreams and nightmares - and that was The Doctor’s dark side manifesting as the DreamLord. Funny that it was the Doctor’s dark side but the key choice to be made was Amy’s, eh? And we do know that The Doctor’s dark side come out again, unless the future is rewritten, as his penultimate version … so the Valyard knows her mind because he knows what The Doctor knows.
What exactly was the significance of River finding the picture of Amy with Rory in a Roman outfit?
In the context it made me think that Rory was just a guy she posed with and that he as her boyfriend was never real, just a role player bloke she posed with at a fair and took a fantasy to, but I don’t think so. Then again, if the wedding dress was there when River showed up I missed it. Of course it shouldn’t be there because Rory never was, being swallowed in the time vortex and all. But then why the picture of her with him if he never was at all? Or was that there because she had just remembered him while he was wearing that outfit and her remembering has the power to if not create, to at least recreate realities?
And “who and what” was Father Octavian meaning River is when he said that The Doctor does not who and what she really is?
And the Tardis either doing what it wants to with River at the controls, or being controlled by another power (including my boxed speculation above), makes one put the Tardis’ initial odd inability to come back when The Doctor had aimed for, in a new context. Not just post-regeneration jitters but part of the design, by either the Tardis itself (as always getting The Doctor where he actually needs to be, not where he thinks he wants to go) or the other entity (of the “silence will fall” voice).
On preview I see I am not the first to think of that!
They’ve done a great job of giving leads some of which must be false - robot versions that believe they are real - from the Dalek creation who was able to become human in his heart, to this latest batch, including Rory who was unable to stop himself from firing. The DreamLord episode has us unclear what may be inside someone’s mind and which level of fantasy box inside fantasy box we may be in…
Finding Rory in a roman outfit was her clue that the whole roman scene was a set-up – something from Amy’s imagination, rather than something real. Because those actual roman gladiators looked just like the costume. If the situation had been real, they’d have looked like real roman gladiators and not a cheesy halloween costume.
How do we know that all the other monsters aren’t also Autons? The cyberman head ejecting its existing human head seems to be indicative of that.
Here’s the preview clip for *The Big Bang * - the only one there’s going to be, I believe.
It’s not very spoilery, but it is quite moving.
Did you notice Rory’s tear at the end? Odd for an Auton. I suspect Rory ties to help the Doctor one last time.
Confidential showed them filming Amy’s death. It was a nasty night. Cold, rainy, and muddy. It can’t be easy filming a emotional scene sitting in mud.
I’m convinced that Amy still has to say “I love you” to Rory at some point, even if he is now made of plastic. So there’s got to be at least one more scene with both of them alive.
That’s got to happen. Surely.
WAG, with no real knowledge other than the first seven words
young Amelia is in the last part. I reckon the Doctor and probably River have seeded things throughout this series in order that there is another way for the events we’ve seen to unfold. Amy’s house has too many rooms. Hmmm, so did the house in The Lodger, and that was someone trying to build a Tardis.
Don’t read unless you really want to know about Amy.
I’ve read threads on several boards. Most think Amy is on the verge of death. Rory lets the Doctor out, and puts Amy in. The box keeps her alive and she is in stasis. She can be woken later when proper medical treatment is available. Perhaps a 1000 years later? Doesn’t matter because she’s sleeping. Also, Amelia is available if DNA is needed to treat Amy.
There’s lots of theories about the rest. Some already posted here. But, no real solid ideas. We’ll find out Saturday.
She doesn’t. Despite previously saying I wouldn’t, I rewatched the episode and at about 28 minutes in, right after River asks the Doctor if he has a plan, you can see the vortex manipulator is with him.
I think this Doctor has forgotten more than any of us will ever know!
Well, she has spent a lot of time in the Tardis and the Tardis is telepathic, so if whatever is controlling the Tardis is controlling or in commmunication with the Evil Alliance of Evil…
Also, at the end of “The Lodger,” when Amy opens the ring box, the crack expands dramatically, or maybe it’s just the light flaring. In any case, the way the shots are intercut suggests a link between the two, as if the crack itself feeding of her memories, or something accessing her through the crack.
New to Doctor Who, are we?
TWDuke, for a second you made me think the Doctor posted on this board… 
(PS, unrelated but I love your username!)
I don’t think anyone/thing is reading Amy’s mind.
Someone clearly (from the marks on the lawn) visited Amy’s house and saw everything in her room. I think everything was built off what they saw, not her memories. That’s why Rory is there as a Roman soldier. The picture of him dressed that way was with the book, making it look like, to an alien outsider stumbling across everything, he was supposed to be dressed that way. If they were pulling a memory of Rory out of Amy’s mind, which is more likely - Roman Soldier Rory or Male Nurse Rory (each sold separately)?
On a side note - when I think these things through in my mind, I hear my thoughts in the Doctor’s voice. Maybe I’m just weird. But I knew I had accepted Matt Smith as the Doctor when I realized it had stopped being Tennant’s voice in my head, and became Smith’s. That was a while ago.
Thanks, Electric Warrior, although I would have punctuated it if I’d remembered that this board allows that.:smack:
According to the ever-reliable search function, there is not now nor ever has been a member called “The Doctor,” which is actually kind of surprising.
Gah, I keep telling myself I’m going to stay away from spoilers but I just can’t resist them. I’m kind of glad this one turned out to be speculation and, although I can’t say for sure, probably wrong.If the box was built to hold the most dangerous being in all the cosmos, Roranicuton shouldn’t be able to let him out. I do, however, agree Amy is probably only mostly dead. The preview clip shows Roranicuton talking to her and begging her to laugh. Although it’s possible his poor plastic mind has snapped, it would make more sense if she still had some life left in her.
I saw one of the funniest animated gifs on Gallifrey base.
It had Amy bent over and the Doctor behind. Text said this will make you forget about Rory. 
I regret not saving it. The mods may make the user change his Avatar. Still, it was hilarious and NSFW.
They weren’t gladiators. They were soldiers.
But then wouldn’t he just be a plastic dude who looked like Rory but thought he was a Roman? Somehow he remembers at the very least that his name was Rory, he was Amy’s boyfriend, they traveled with the Doctor, and he died underground.
Don’t forget Amy’s Dreamhouse Rory with detachable ponytail.
What’s a Tennant?
ETA: Did anyone else notice that when Amy chose to stay by Rory’s side, risking her life to try to save him, she still called him her boyfriend rather than fiance? She still can’t commit! (Of course, given what happened, I suppose that’s justifiable…)