alaricthegoth!! — If you have evidence that Zarqawi may not even exist, than who is this person in the linked Reuters article about “Zarqawi?” And goodness have mercey — its not just Reuters, every news service in the world that had a picture of “Zarqawi” – had a picture of this guy. Man, if this guy isn’t Zarqawi and you have something indicating this ---- then its your duty to get this information out there as soon as possible. This poor fellow in the picture – the possibly fake “Zarqawi”- is in a heap of danger!! However, I can wait until you provide the evidence requested by Marley23 that Zarqawi is fiction – since that was asked for first.
e claims that the Washington administration made for an al-Qaeda/Saddam link were based on three broad elements. The first was that a Jordanian ‘bin Laden associate’ called Abu Musab al-Zarqawi had sheltered in Baghdad after fleeing the American onslaught in Afghanistan. Al-Zarqawi was indeed in Iraq but was not, as a thick sheaf of reports of interrogations of his close associates open on my desk make clear, an ally of bin Laden. His group, al-Tauheed, was actually set up in competition to that of the Saudi. To lump them together is either a wilful misrepresentation or reveals profound ignorance about the nature of modern Islamic militancy. Either way, there’s no link there. Nor has any evidence for one surfaced since the end of the war. http://observer.guardian.co.
uk/international/story/0,6903,1006663,00.html
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi: his real name is Fadel al-Khalayleh
I did not mean to say there was no man to whom the cpa had associated a variety of evils.
merely that the id (*the name of the guy they point to is as indicated above) and associated “dossier” is, as I said, problematic.
eleven hour gap on the recorder’s time and loads of blood
Well - your first link doesn’t work - but I’m not sure how even the statement you decided to provide -the above quote - shows us that “Zarqawi” is really another guy — a guy named “Fadel al-Khalayleh.” I mean your quote never mentions “Fadel al-Khalayleh.” And to make matters much worse ---- if not unbelievabily confusing — this quoted speaker is talking about the guy using the name -“Zarqawi” – Why??
Your second attempt also didn’t link -
Please show me where does the above link to the The Guardian article say that ‘Zarqawi’ is not his “real name.” It’s not there. Doesn’t even call “Zarqawi” by his ‘other real name.’ So why did you provide that link? – not that it’s important, – just curious.
Aaaah – so it’s not that the person, who people call “Zarqawi”—it’s not that he doesn’t exist — it’s just that they’re getting the guy’s name wrong. Got ya ------ But since you still haven’t provided anything that indicates even this ---- that the world has his name wrong --could you please provide a source for your information? Once you do I’ll call the person in the pictures “Fadel al-Khalayleh.”
Who mentioned a “dossier” for “Zarqawi” in the above posts - and what portions of the above-mentioned “dossier” are “problematic?”
You know — it would help if you were a bit more specific in your claims – with a bit more support – especially in GD.
I know that. What’s it have to do with the subject at hand? This casts [further, unnecessary] doubt on the rationale behind the war, not on Al-Zarqawi’s involvement with terrorism in Iraq or “the existence of a real Zarqawi.” I did read in a CNN piece that it’s not his real name, but it’s common custom for Arab men to take a second name. I don’t see the importance of this either.
A link to the video can be found at Wikipedia:
Note, it’s safe to clink on the link above. It doesn’t go directly to the video, it goes to a page of text about Nick Berg.
The entry above mentions some of the possible discrepancies about the video.
There’s a bit more to the story, though, such as the publication of Nick’s father’s name on a list of “Enemies” at freerepublic.com. He was listed as “Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc.” That, of course, is the same company that Nick Berg worked for.
There’s also a marked similarity in the walls and furniture in the video with what we’ve seen in the Abu Ghraib photos.
Conspiracy theorists are invited to check out these two pages in particular:
Sorry. In direct answer to the OP:
There’s a grey (concrete? linoleum?) floor, with what seems to be gym mats on it, and brown blankets over the mats. The color of the blankets disguises the blood, but in the last few seconds of the video, it’s obvious that there’s lots and lots of blood.
Links to … http://www.schnittshow.com/main.html
a) That’s not a link, it’s an address.
b) The address gives a 403 error.
Inigo: I got the page out of Google’s cache. The version Schnittshow.com linked to is not as good as the Wikipedia version.
It’s really something else that the whole Al-Zarqawi had his leg amputated in Baghdad is another pre-war intelligencve failure.
I’m not sure I follow you. Are you saying that the video is proof that he didn’t have his leg amputated? Or that the video is proof that it isn’t Zarqawi?
…Or that if Zarqawi had a prosthetic leg he couldn’t behead Berg?
I’m saying that the gov has changed their story about his leg. Now they’re saying that further questioning of detainees reveals that Z didn’t really have it amputated.
No, the blood on the floor was really from the amputation and Berg’s “head” was really a Halloween mask and Berg REALLY lost his head when a cable on one of his telecom towers snapped after it was weakened by a Freeper. :rolleyes:
Thanks Desmostylus it would be bad for me to watch the video myself, you have given the best answer yet. (though I appreciate all the discussion in this thread, and read it with interest).
**"**A U.S. official said Tuesday that al-Zarqawi traveled to Baghdad in May 2002 for treatment of a leg injury but, contrary to previous reports, appears not to have had a leg amputated. The official would not discuss the reason for the change in assessment.
Before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, President Bush, Secretary of State Colin Powell and other administration officials pointed to intelligence that they said suggested al-Zarqawi had had his leg amputated in Baghdad.
A senior U.S. military officer in Iraq said the new information followed an investigation and came from some of al-Zarqawi’s supporters who are in custody."
Sorry, I hadn’t come across that one. Got some linkage please?
You must be prescient, SimonX. 
OK, so Zarqawi has two legs. I still don’t follow.