Does anyone else have a hard accepting republican voters are decent people lately?

Actually I can respect any conservative who denounces Trump (who isn’t even a conservative) I may not agree with George Will on most things, but I can respect him. Any Republican that gets in bed with Trump is beneath contempt.

So approximately half the voting citizenry are…deplorable?

You people really need to take the blinders off. First of all, you’ve hypnotized yourselves into believing that enforcing the borders, something every country does, or taking the time to vet incoming Muslim immigrants, is somehow ‘racist’. Then you become hysterical over Trump’s locker room admission to Billy Bush, which may or may not have been true (and yes, I’ve seen the ostensible claims from other women that they are) and declare this and this alone makes anyone who votes for him a bad person, ignoring all the while the many substantive accusations that were far worse surrounding Bill Clinton’s behavior as a sexual predator never caused your support for him to waver.
Trump voters are no more swayed by Trump’s comment about women letting him grab them than were Clinton voters swayed by his behavior, and for the same reason: they believe he will accomplish more of what they want to happen politically. Decades of court decisions, trade issues, tax issues, and strength in dealing with malevolent foreign enemies (“The difference is night and day” ~ Afghanistan’s delighted president on the difference between Obama and Trump), etc., etc., etc. Republican voters are no more going to switch their votes on all these issues to a candidate who will seek to do the exact opposite of what they want because of this or that sexual contretemps than the Democrats were in regard to Bill Clinton.

And remember, it’s been said that liberals take Trump literally but not seriously, while conservatives take Trump seriously but not literally. There’s much to that as well.

Posts that called democrats contemptible apes that supported a cream colored harpy or mocha hued chimp would probably be received very differently. Those posts would probably result in warnings for so-called ‘hate speech’ or trolling. The lack of civility and the double standards here are sad.

Strawmen-sad.

Got it.

Do you know what a strawman is? Because I don’t think it applies here.

I’m pretty sure there’s a difference between saying (recognizing) that these people have really terrible values and/or fact assessment ability is not quite in the same league as saying they’re not human.

(Though since you’re a cephalopod you might not appreciate the difference.)

Yes. 100% yes. Voting for a stupid, incompetent, asshole with dangerous ideas and no experience or understanding about government is a deplorable thing to so. Pussy grabbing or no pussy grabbing, this guy has zero qualifications, and that’s what deplorable people like about him.

The election of Trump has caused me to reconsider my views on humanity. I used to think we’re all flawed, but basically good and decent. I no longer believe that.

Once you are president you are going to be taken both literally, and seriously by everyone, whether you know it or not, or want it or not. There is no special treatment for the rich kid anymore, and he has the whole country to preside over. Not just those who take his words the way he wants them to be taken. This is just one of many reasons donald has to go. And he knows it, even if his minions don’t.

Why would you think humanity is basically good? Isn’t that something people need to learn and be conditioned to act?

I’m not sure. I just believed that. I still believe it about Canadians. :slight_smile:

Well, let’s see, to judge from posts on this board during the run up to the nomination, Cruz was a stupid asshole with dangerous ideas; Rubio was a stupid asshole with dangerous ideas; Perry was a stupid asshole with dangerous ideas; etc., etc., etc.

Are you beginning to see a pattern here? A bias, maybe?

People voted for Trump because they’re fed up with the way things are going in this country and they viewed him as their only hope to turn it around.

Well to be fair, they were correct on Cruz. Even most other Republicans feel the same way about him.

I don’t think I saw or heard that as much about Rubio but I do recall it for Perry.

Trump is just another in a long line of lying hypocrites who tell the voters what they want to hear to get elected. The people that supported and/or voted for Trump didn’t want “something different”-they wanted what the others promised them and didn’t/couldn’t deliver, and Trump was the more bombastic liar.

Yes, 100% correct.

and even if they wanted “something different,” they were idiots to believe Trump would deliver it. Drain the swamp? In your dreams perhaps. Did the average blue collar worker vote for Trump to lower taxes on rich people? I think not.

“What this country needs is a man who doesn’t know his job but will torture prisoners and murder their families while destroying any goodwill any nation has towards us. That’s what’ll Make America Great Again!”

Yes, I see the truth of it.

Just because there are stupid assholes with dangerous ideas does’t mean that you have to run them.

I probably would have voted for Kasich over Clinton. Though I voted against him for governor, I don’t think he’s done that badly for the state, and he’s pretty moderate. But your party rejected him, and chose trump to represent them instead.

I am beginning to see a pattern. You run the shittiest assholes with the most dangerous ideas.

This thread has become hysterical, and not in an amusing way.

I was reading something the other day related to child psychology. The part relevant to this discussion is that people (and wolves and other animals) are attracted to an “Alpha male” as a protector, not because the Alpha male bullies them.

As that relates to Trump, my theory is that the millions of conservative working middle class White Americans voted for Trump because, where Liberals see a bully, they see someone standing up to leftists, socialists, anarchists, feminists, illegal immigrants stealing their jobs, PC social warriors, inept bureaucrats, lazy shiftless violent minorities and more moderate Republicans who appear to have closer ties to the Democrats they should be opposing.

If Kasich got the nomination, I would have looked at him a lot closer. And may have voted for him as well. I’m no big fan of Hillary, but Trump? That anyone. Anyone at all even considered him is something I will never understand.

We have such a dichotomy on the conservative/republican side.

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[li]Many of those that are down and out, and believe Trump would help them.[/li][li]Few of those that are very well off and believe Trump would help them.[/li][/ul]

For our conservative/republican friends on the SDMB, which group do you think will prosper most under Trump?