Recently a local conservative radio host blessed the city of Seattle with this rant against hip-hop as a whole, based on an article in the University of Washington student newspaper. Does anyone here agree with him? If so, why?
“Geologic the rap artist that goes to the University of Washington…”
This talk show host sounds like a lame Rush Limbaugh wanna be and I disagree with so many things he said I wouldn’t know where to begin but this thread is for people who agree so I will not say anything except “ya’ll gon’ make me lose my mind, up in here, up in here”. :smack:
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How did this guy get a radio show? The wrong numbers I get on my answering machine make more sense, and are more entertaining.
I agree with START. I don’t even know where to start with this - it’s just bad.
In the words of the poet-laureate Biz Markie, BABY YOOOUUUU, YOU GOT WHAT I NEEEE-EEED!!
Err, wait. No. This is about some lefty hiphopist named ‘Geologic’ who is pissed because he didn’t get to sit in first class after his parents payed for coach, and now is concerned about ‘equal access issues’ or some such.
All parties concerned appear to be college students, which pretty much explains it.
Outkast is all I can say, really. 
I can’t stand hip hop but I don’t agree with that guy lol.
WARNING: The link from the OP goes straight to a sound file.
(Some of us are at work, ya know.)
Arwin-I’m one of the biggest hip-hop fans you’ll ever meet. OutKast sucks.
Debaser-I’m sorry. I didn’t realize that that could be a problem. Not to sound snarky, but if you take a look at the link before clicking on it, it not only says “audio” and ends in “.mp3”, but on every computer I’ve been on, it takes a long time to load the audio program, in which time you can turn the sound down. But I do apologize.
Brutus-I don’t actually know the story about that airplane thing, and neither do you, so what I was focused on was the bulk of the rant and not the first class thing.
It was brought up multiple times. How much bulkier could it be?
This guy is obviously a tool (and I mean that in the derogatory sence, not the conspiracy theorist sence). He’s complaining first about college kids in which he sounds barely over the age of 15 then takes a very broad brush to paint a subculture of America?
Did you listen to the first 5 minutes of the clip? He’s a 70 year old white man trapped in a 15 year old geek’s body.
That thar newfangled muzak and them thar baggy slacks is DESTROYIN the fabric of 'Merica! We have moral VALUUUES in this here country!
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No prob.
I wasn’t bothered by it. I just figured some others might be. I usually do look at file extensions, but didn’t this time. I did close it in time to not annoy any of my co-workers, or reveal myself to be a company time waster! 
I thought it was a funny way of saying what this guy really is. But my tastes are broad, and I happen to love Outkast. I’m sure it’s too mainstream for you or sum’thin’, but their rhythm is innovative, their lyrics are strong, and their production is top notch.
I’ve been listening seriously to rap for 12 years or so, and even transcribed a song or two (pretty darn hard for a non-native speaker you can imagine). But over here I have mostly access to fairly mainstream stuff, so I’ve got a lot of favorites among those. What rocks your boat?
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Haha. I just think outkast is really overhyped. Sure its got some good grooves, but honestly there are so many better choices. I’m more into the underground culture, Sage Francis, Jedi Mind Tricks, Immortal Technique, Sweatshop Union, that kind of thing.
I think the DJ and Geologic both sound like idiots. I totally agree that the airplane story is pathetic. I’ve flown very frequently since infancy and never even stopped to look at first class until I was old enough to buy my own upgrade.
On the other hand, the DJ is clueless about hip hop and should do a little research before spewing hatred.
On the other hand (yes, incredibly, I have three hands), I’ve been somewhat dissillusioned with hip hop recently, and especially with so-called “conscious-rap”. I’m always searching for intelligence in music, which I think is why I’ve always been so attracted to the seemingly polar-opposite music of punk-rock and hip-hop, but it seems to be failing me lately. I’ve seen Talib Kweli make borderline racist comments,; KRS-One praised the 9/11 attacks, and the Rza can’t seem to form a complete sentence, despite his apparent genius in the studio. Other members of the genre are displaying better and better rhyming skills, but seem to be running out of substance or just plain ignorant of their subject matter. I’ve rarely heard political hip-hop that wasn’t incredibly simple minded (except the old satire, such as Fuck tha Police and Cop Killer) and it seems that the so-called “intelligent” rappers now are only interested in forced comic-book references and beating people up whilst floating in outer space.
Maybe I’m just feeling jaded.
Haha. I just think outkast is really overhyped. Sure its got some good grooves, but honestly there are so many better choices. I’m more into the underground culture, Sage Francis, Jedi Mind Tricks, Immortal Technique, Sweatshop Union, that kind of thing.
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Thanks, will check some of those out. Jedi Mind Tricks rings a bell, the rest I don’t know. For sheer melodic/rhythmic genious, I like Bustah Rhymes a lot, but his solo albums generally just don’t cut it. But as a guest rapper he always stands out, like on one of my old faves, The Theme II: Party Remix, by Tracy Lee.
@Cisco: just one of the things I like about Outkast, they do have pretty intelligent lyrics. The Love Below 2CD album has a few real gems hidden in there.
On The Love Below, I really dig ‘The Rooster’ - it’s funny, creative, and really gets the adrenaline flowing. I like that in a song.
My personal recommendation: Kanye West, The College Dropout. Very intelligent, multi-award winning, innovative style with a touch of old-school. But I’m an Old School fan, early hip hop through the 90’s. Huge 2 Pac fan here. Music needs to have a deeper meaning to me as well as raw talent. But try Kanye, he’s my fave right now.
Kanye goes in my “ridiculously overhyped pile.” He’s a talented producer, but there are plenty of other rappers who don’t talk about guns and are much better than he is.
I try to keep an open mind with music because I too am an artist and thinks it’s unfair to make immediate assumptions because they’re mainstream. There’s a reason they’re popular, most people like to listen to them.
To each his own I guess.
I do not need to listen to only underground, obscure music to feel “enlightened”. There’s plenty of talent in what you hear on the radio and also in what never makes it there. I like it all, I can appreciate it all for different reasons.
Isn’t the guy just doing what any reactionary does when they want to shout about something? Find two targets, and elide them? ‘Liberal middle-class college’ and ‘non-white hip-hop kids’ seem to suffice. Add to that repeated references to a single dubious source, and you’ve got a ‘scandal’.
My only anger is that vinniepaz gave this the oxygen of publicity. (Or that he really thought it was anything other than yet-another-DJ ensuring his ratings and phone calls are high enough to keep him employed.)
Just because I think a couple of mainstream artists are overhyped doesn’t mean I have some random for all mainstream music. Eminem is one of my favorite rappers. It’s this whole thing where the media finds some record that sort of bridges the gap between the hip-hop culture and more mainstream upper middle class culture, and just gets so excited that they shower it with praise, even though on a lyrical level, Kanye is decent at best, and probably considerably worse. Don’t think he doesn’t know what he’s doing, he makes this music because the normal hip-hop culture doesn’t buy enough records. I have his album, it’s severely underwhelming.
“I woke up in the morning with a new state of mind,
A clever way to rhyme
Without using nines and guns”
No, that isn’t clever. In fact, he’s just perpetuating the myth that all hip-hop is about guns. Plenty of my favorite rappers never mention guns, in fact many of them rail against them. Some do talk about guns. Sugarhill Gang’s “Rapper’s Delight,” the first rap record to chart, never talks about guns. In fact, the entire gangster rap culture didn’t start until the early 90s, so not talking about guns is not clever. I’m not even going to mention how he find the polysyllabic rhyme to difficult to carry for a third time.