On another message board far away, a Republican is desperately trying to convince his fellow posters that California has conservatives.
Texas hippies: “Peace and love, or I’ll kick your ass and then it will be peace and love!”
I can’t stop myself from hijacking every time the size of Texas is mentioned: Texas’s clean car program is called or was at one point “Drive Clean Across Texas”. Whenever I saw that on a sign upon entering the state in a drive out West, my morale plummeted and it felt like the state was officially trying to tell me “yeah, you have to drive all 700 something miles through us, because fuck you!”
I stand corrected. Here is the map. The counties southwest of San Antonio went for Hillary.
I was also born in Texas.
All true.
I was responding to this statement by **Aspenglow **(whom I really like!): " I thought Beto was very strong, but it’s hard to gauge how Texans viewed it – which may be quite different from my liberal take," which sounded like “Texans” and “liberals” were essentially mutually exclusive. I guess I’m sensitive the way people in “flyover country” are sensitive about all being lumped in one general, convenient category.
You mean the state is really big just to piss you off? 
If they want to be that big that’s they’re right but they don’t have to flaunt it 
I get it. There are many more liberals and people on the left than most folks realize. Sadly, in my experience, many of them are deflated and have all but given up.
But, there is without doubt a younger generation under 30 who are persuadable. A lot of them.
In hindsight I can see how you took it that way. I try so hard to be precise with my language on this board, but I always seem to leave out qualifiers and confuse people. In this case, I should have added a parenthetical “except you.”
I celebrate the bruising of Texas (IOW, turning purple) and hope Beto pulls in a ton of new voters to propel him to victory.
“…and all your friends and the liberal Texan Dopers.” I don’t personally know any Cruz/thump supporters. I have some suspects, but don’t hang out with them since I’m retired. There are Beto signs all over my neighborhood.
I try to be precise in my language, too, and I have observed that you do. It’s one of the things I appreciate about you. 
It’s aggravating for someone to take something wrong, when you thought you had all the leaks plugged.
In other news:
“Ted Cruz and Beto O’Rourke Clash Over ‘Jim Crow,’ Immigration and Kavanaugh in Debate”
“The Sun is riz, the Sun is set
And here we iz, in Texas yet”
I’ve been to Austin and I’ve been to Oregon and the two aren’t much alike in any respect in my experience. Portland in particular is WAY “weirder” even than Austin views itself.
I watched it with some liberal friends, and we thought Beto did pretty well, he did sound very practiced but not phony. He did keep repeating how he visited all 254 counties we started laughing at that, but it is a truly impressive feat, I think that I’ve maybe been to 50 of them at most. I think his answer about his DUI was a good humble answer and then pivoting to how he got a second chance that many don’t was very good.
I also liked how he kept emphasizing that we all need to come together as Texans, that all Republicans, Democrats, and Independents can and should work together on solving problems and making Texas better. That is the positivity and inclusiveness that I and many other voters like. It’s part of the reason that I’ve seen people saying they are Republicans or former Republicans for Beto, but I’ve seen zero Democrats for Cruz. Just the concept of Democrats for Cruz is so absurd.
Listening to Cruz I almost got a headache from rolling my eyes so hard. And I hated it when Beto was answering but they’d cut to a shot of him in profile and Cruz smirking on the other side of the stage. I think he did a decent job playing to his base but I don’t know if anyone undecided would come vote to him based on the debate.
As a liberal Texan, my sense is that many of us are very excited and hopeful about Beto. The issue is that Beto doesn’t just need the liberals to go out, he needs a lot of non-voters to go out. I’m hoping that the liberal excitement translates to people volunteering and doing what they can to get everyone out to vote.
Somewhat related to the debate, one of Cruz’s tweets from last night was this. I realize that as a crazy liberal that my point of view would be different than the voters that Cruz is targeting, but I don’t see what it is he’s going for. The tweet says “In Beto O’Rourke’s own words” and then it has a video clip of Beto talking to a crowd at a church in the Dallas area and saying how it’s an injustice that a young black man was shot in his apartment by an unarmed officer and that when the public wants all the information to make a decision, the information that is released is that there was a small amount of marijuana in his apartment. I know that there are some people who jump through hoops trying to justify what the cop did, but that video clip is not something that I think would convince Beto is crazy, and most of the responses to the tweet do seem to be Beto voters saying it’s further proof why they support him.
Some years back, spent nine nights and five days in Austin. One time, was wandering around this big ol’ house with a sleeping bag, looking for some place nobody was partying. Dawn was breaking, saw a car pull out, said something like are people leaving?
“Nah, store run, we’re getting low on beer.” Aww, what the hell, I’ll sleep when I’m dead.
Over 40 years ago, I spent a romantic night in Austin with my then-boyfriend. We got up the next morning and went to a funky, friendly (now gone) restaurant called Les Amis (anyone remember it?). It was a couple of blocks off the Drag. We needed to get back home, but neither of us wore a watch. We asked around the restaurant among the patrons and servers, “Anyone know what time it is?” NO ONE KNEW. Sweet memories… good times…
I hope Beto wins as well, but I don’t need 3 emails from his campaign every day. I’m on vacation and woke up this morning with about 300 emails, 25% of them political fundraising
Check out the video in this Tweet.
It’s Beto giving a speech about the Bothan Jean incident to what appears to be a primarly African American church. It’s a pretty inspiring bit of rhetoric coming from the fairly unassailable position that unarmed black men shouldn’t be shot in their own homes.
Here’s the weird thing… It’s from Ted Cruz’s Twitter account and accompanied by the text, “In Beto O’Rourke’s own words #TXSenateDebate.”
What point is Ted trying to make here?
I have a yahoo address that I use whenever I sign up for stores, campaigns, fund-raising, etc. All those emails go there. I never use my main email address for anything that I think is going to generate lots of mail. Consider it.
I get those fund raising and take action emails and some of them bother me a lot, with subject lines like “Obamacare Destroyed!” or “AAAaaauuugh! They’re going to kill us all!”
I mean, I expect that kind of WOLF! rhetoric from the right wing, but when I see it coming from 5he anti-RW, I feel like come on people, you are better than that, rise above.
Like O’Rourke. He seems to be rising above it. For whatever it will earn him. I am hopeful but not optimistic.
Well, O’Rourke is obviously saying it’s wrong when police kill an unarmed black man, search his apartment for no apparent reason, and use a small amount of drugs to smear his reputation. And O’Rourke made those remarks in a room full of black people! I mean, Cruz supporters naturally reject that kind of disgusting rhetoric. Just look at the way he whips up those people. Very unsettling.
In the words of one of the replies:
I think we can definitively rule out one of those options, so here you have a pure, unadulterated look at what Cruz thinks his base wants to hear from him.