I can’t imagine how rapid that group would become if they did successfully prove that Biden is unfit, but instead of Trump coming back, Harris is their new leader.
As long as I can remember, I’ve had good days and bad days. I remember going to work several times in my 20s and 30s and 40s and saying “I’m going to put off this task that requires more of my brain, and today is a good day for cleaning out old emails and taking care of some of the more inane parts of my job.” That doesn’t mean I had dementia or was suffering from old age in my 30s. It means that some nights I didn’t sleep well, some days I had taken cold medicine that left me foggy headed, and sometimes I was just distracted.
You know, if you are going to be a snarky ass you should really make sure you are correct. ‘His Own Doctors’ have repeatedly said he showed no signs of Alzheimers while in office. His first symptoms did not appear until 1993, four years out of office, and he wasn’t diagnosed until 1995. As a reminder, his term ended in 1988.
From Snopes:
Oh goodie. You’re wrong.
I can’t easily answer your question, which is why I started this thread. I don’t have much experience hanging around seniors who regularly have senior moments. Most of my experience is with my own dad, whom I visit for just a couple of days every few months - and he’s got pretty advanced Parkinson’s-related dementia, so not a useful point of reference.
I don’t. I voted for him, but I’m not a huge fan of Harris; I hope she doesn’t become President. I’m glad Biden beat Trump, but during the campaign last year I was surprised at how much he aged, appearance-wise, since he and Obama left office four years earlier.
One of the reasons politics is such a shitshow these days is because of the constant accusations of ulterior motives. Want to curtail illegal immigration? You must be a white-supremacist xenophobe. Want to curtail gun violence? You must want to take everyone’s guns away and infantilize everyday citizens. Wondering about the President’s cognitive status? You must just want to make him look bad. Whatever.
If you’re going to be snarky, get your facts straight. A president’s term ends in odd-numbered years.
That Snopes article has plenty of evidence, from Lesley Stahl and Ron Reagan and others who spoke with him repeatedly during his second term in office, that suggest he definitely wasn’t right in his head while in office. My point, which you seem incapable of understanding, was that Alzheimer’s isn’t an off-on switch, and that he was definitely diagnosed as having it, and a bad case of it, after leaving office, There is no way on earth anyone could possibly pinpoint the day, the week, the month or the year that the first signs of it began revealing themselves.
Whatever genius “diagnosed” Biden as showing signs of dementia clearly doesn’t know what dementia is or what its symptoms are. What we’re seeing here is a combination of Biden’s natural tendency to stammer plus probably a bit of old-age forgetfulness, which I see in a lot of people.
Well, I for one never tried to medically diagnose Trump based on those incidents. I just find them amusing because the self-described “stable genius” and “healthiest president in history” is so arrogantly pompous. The only medical diagnosis I can confidently make about Trump is that he suffers from terminal stupidity. There is literally nothing he can say that is so outrageously imbecilic that even he would recognize it as stupid – nothing!
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/26/politics/donald-trump-2020-election-routers/index.html
First off, this notion that “die hard Biden supporters” would do this is nothing more than a stupid “both sides do it!” talking point created by Republicans who can’t get over the fact that this is what they do. Compare the typical GOP response to finding out something bad about one of their candidates to the Democratic Party response, and it becomes abundantly clear that the Democrats are far more willing to admit problems, and the GOP never admits problems.
So right off the bat, your premise is flawed.
As for this part, several members of my family have gone through this, my mother being the current one. Biden is nothing at all like them. Trump, on the other hand, shows several things in common with these family members, but good luck getting the typical Trump supporter to admit that.
It’s also worth noting that the GOP tried the same tactic with Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election, and looky-looky, it turned out to be stupid propaganda crap then, and it’s stupid propaganda crap now. One would hope the GOPsters would stop falling for it at some point, but I suppose anyone who does stop falling for also stops voting Republican, so it may be a self-selecting phenomenon.
The recent source for this comes from Faux news:
Ergo, “they must just want to make him look bad.”
Reagan was regularly cognitively tested, and his doctors have testified that the first early signs of Alzheimers did not show up in testing until 1993, long after he was out of office.
Your other evidence is a journalist and his son who was actively opposed to him at the time and has since walked back his comments. Neither of them were doctors.
It seems to me you are doing exactly what everyone else in this thread is complaining about - using non-doctors to justify a conclusuon about the President that you want to believe. If it’s bad when Republicans do it to Biden, it’s bad if Democrats do it to Reagan.
The money quote is here:
Jackson pointed to an increase in instances where the president appears “confused.”
“You can go back – there’s forty years of tape of this man – he’s always made gaffes and stuff but these are different, he’s confused, he’s disoriented,” the Texas congressman continued.
Standard GOP bullshit. Every time someone challenges them to post an example of Biden being “confused”, they fail to do so. All they have are idiots like this guy making claims, with nothing to back them up.
Meanwhile, Biden is on TV, giving hour-long speeches that everyone but the right-wing propagandists covers, and no one else sees these “obvious” instances of being “confused”. It’s all bullshit.
My own observations, FWIW.
Biden - he can seem tired and occasionally doesn’t speak at volume, which can make it seem like he’s mumbling. I haven’t seen him get confused, and he’s able to answer reporters’ questions easily.
Tump - the only signs that I noticed that might be associated with dementia are jumbled speaking and perseveration. For example, you can look for yourself at older tapes of interviews (10-15) years ago, and compare his performance in those to now. Then he spoke coherently and finished the sentences he started. Now he speaks in a word salad, and jumps from one fragment of a thought to another. His perseveration is (IMO) more severe than simple political messaging. Other than those symptoms, I don’t see dementia. Even those are not diagnostic.
Admittedly, it would be a judgment call to distinguish between Reagan’s first day of full-on dementia and his regular practice of being dimwitted and simpleminded. Stahl’s and Ron Reagan’s stories of his cluelessness compel the conclusion that one or the other applied, off and on, for years before he was officially, and openly, diagnosed with complete dementia in the early 1990s. You may continue to think of him as an intellectual giant, of course, and a brilliant thinker to the end of his life and beyond. I’m quite satisfied that he was an amiable dunce on his best day, and a virtual vegetable at the end of his life.
And yet he couldn’t remember a thing about Iran-Contra.
Maybe it was hard to tell because Reagan was such a total dumbass:
You an think anything you want about Reagan. That’s a hijack. The point is there was no evidence of Alzheimers while he was in office.
Well, Trump sure as hell sunk that battleship.
It’s not about what I think, it’s about the factual evidence presented that Reagan was not exactly a model of mental acuity, especially in his later years in office. Absence of a specific Alzheimer’s diagnosis doesn’t mean he wasn’t in significant mental decline, which he clearly was. I have seen no such evidence about Biden. I reject your false equivalency.
And I think Biden is much worse than Reagan ever was. There are times when he lapses into complete incoherence. He’s never been the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he seems worse now. But he’s 80, and some senescence is normal. I’m not going to diagnose him with something.
Well you say that, but…
The question was "Will Children under 12 be able to be vaccinated? The answer was… something.
For those who don’t want to watch, here’s the transcript of his answer:
Which you introduced. This thread had nothing to do with Reagan until you brought him up in some kind of Bricker-esque “liberal hypocrisy” ploy.
On topic: it is impossible to effectively diagnose someone of anything based on TV appearances and anyone who declares that Biden has dementia is 100% guessing. I wonder why they would do that?
I didn’t say always and I don’t think anyone always answers every question easily or correctly. I’ll amend my answer to include that qualification.