Kawhi Leonard sure seems to have his number. For a 3rd year player, the guy is phenomenal. Jame’s jukes and head fakes rarely threw him off his D.
This is stupid, and the those Pistons teams were gone by the time the Bulls got Kerr.
You ignored most of the point here.
And here you missed the point. The point here is that if you talk about this in a more sensible way, the issue becomes clearer.
He’s the leader of a team that just made the finals four freaking times in a row. You’re right that the Heat don’t have many young players, but that’s because they keep picking at the bottom of the draft and because they are trying to win now. Low-cost veterans are a bigger part of their plan, but they need to get better at finding younger players who will help them. It’s not a LeBron thing, and anyway, they’ve developed Mario Chalmers in their own way. The sun does not revolve around LeBron.
In a thread full of ignorant and ridiculous and uninformed statements, you continue to top yourself.
Eventually, sure. Not in two years. He’s played about 40,000 minutes counting the regular season and the playoffs. Kobe Bryant just suffered his first major injury at around 54,000.
He’s already reinvented himself as a low-post threat.
LeBron’s stats for the series: 28.2 points/7.8 rebounds/4 assists per game on 57% total shooting. Kawhi Leonard is awesome and over a series I’m not sure how much better you can do against modern-day LeBron, particularly when you’re putting up some big numbers on offense. But let’s not act like he was shut down- it was nothing close. On the other hand Bosh was quiet and Wade was awful.
He didn’t leave the Mafia as a free agent. Therefore he’s cool. :rolleyes:
Yeah ok, Did you not like the movie Goodfellas? Obviously I liked him because of the movie. If you didn’t like those Goodfella characters, then I think your a liar. I don’t want to talk about Hentry Hill or whatever real name Jimmy Conway was either. I deff don’t want to get in a Good fella debate with you because you sound like some kind of Good Fella expert.
Somehow, magically, yes, that’s important. But in practice the Celtics were put together the same way the Heat were. The Celtics needed to make a move to keep Pierce, and Garnett and Allen were available because their teams were rebuilding and didn’t want to lose them in free agency for nothing. Garnett was interested in teaming up with Pierce and Allen was sold on the idea of joining those guys. If Garnett and Allen hadn’t agreed to it, the whole thing never would’ve happened.
No, they really couldn’t have. The Spurs took their best punch early on, and that was all the Heat had left. This was an exhausted team, and even if they hadn’t been exhausted, they weren’t about to hang a 19-0 run on the Spurs.
This is beginning to smack of “Why won’t Obama lead?” 
Because it’s been answered and everybody else understands the reason.
My comment was meant to be sarcastic - I’m in complete agreement with you on this point. The fact that Danny Ainge put the Boston Big Three together rather than the players organizing things themselves is irrelevant - three superstars banded together with the hope of getting a championship.
You’re probably right, but it doesn’t matter. The game wasn’t completely hopeless and he should have been competing until that was undeniable. At least until there were two minutes left. The chances were slim but stranger things have happened in basketball. Someone gets hot shooting 3’s, a few turnovers, and some poor play by the Spurs and the complexion of the game could change quickly. It’s not likely, but that’s why they play the games. Seven minutes is just too long to sit out.
I can’t come to bed yet, honey… someone is WRONG on the INTERNET.
(By the way, I rescind my comment about Jordan’s dad; of course I knew the gambling connections hadn’t been proven but I was under the impression it was a common assumption.)
I was talking about defending his worth as a player, not actually playing defense against him. But since it’s come up, like Marley said, if it were any other player in the world, it would be far from anybody having his number – the story would be that this guy lit the Spurs up like a collective Euro/South American Christmas tree.
Exactly one person in NBA history has shot 57% from the field and 50% from three point land in an NBA Finals while averaging more than 18 points a game. It was LeBron, this year. And he averaged 28. Cut it down to 55 and 50, which is only fair, and you get one name above him: Michael Jordan, 1991.
I know. I was agreeing with you and expanding on the similarity because I felt like it might be necessary.
They were down 18 points with 6:30 left. For an exhausted team against a team that good - one that kicked their asses in games three, four, and five - yes, that’s unwinnable.
The largest lead that Miami had was I believe 22-6 in the first quarter. From that point until halfway through the 4th, San Antonio was up by what, 35? Not one other player even showed up for Miami - how many shots did Wade miss within 8 feet? It felt like at least half a dozen. Meanwhile, how many Spurs were clicking? Every damn one. The odds of any sort of a comeback in that time (and place, most importantly) are practically at nil.
To bring the discussion back to the topic, I think Lebron’s legacy does take a hit if Carmelo joins him. There is a sense of fair play that many fans feel but can’t quite define that diminishes a person if they hop onto the back of someone’s coattails and ride them to a win. Like it or not, Lebron would be seen as doing that with Carmelo (while Carmelo would be seen as the same). If they win, it’ll be forgotten by most people, but there will always be a bit of doubt that you can’t erase, and those who believe it aren’t completely crazy or unreasonable for doing so
Yes, I was a huge Lebron hater. Still don’t like him that much, but I don’t hate him anymore.
LeBron just won two championships without him, so that’d be awfully stupid.
Yeah but to only win two championships with that team is a big failure. Yeah I know Lebron and his coach are yapping about how they’ve gone to the finals 4 straight years but even they know, they failed.
One thing I do know is that the East is not as good as the West and the only reason Lebron has made it to the finals four years in a row is because he plays in the East.
In my opinion Lebron James has no heart. Maybe it’s not a big deal to sit out the final 7 minutes of a finals game when your down so much but a legend doesn’t sit down, a legend at least trys. So in retrospect by getting a player like Carmelo Anthony proves even more how heartless he is.
This thread is really eye opening. I now know that Larry Bird looks worse because the Celtics got Robert Parrish and Bill Walton. And Isaiah looks worse because the Pistons got Mark Aguire. And Hakeem Olajuwan looks worse because the Rockets got Clyde Drexler and Charles Barkley. And Jordan looks worse because the Bulls got Dennis Rodman. And Kobe looks worse because the Lakers got Gary Payton and Karl Malone.
If you say so. Hey, have you noticed that whenever LeBron does something you say it doesn’t really count and when he doesn’t do something you say it’s a huge deal? I’m not saying it makes you look utterly biased, but, um, it does.
Once again, your opinion is wrong and without merit or logic. Note the two championships and four MVPs.
He did try. He was the only reason they were in that game in the first place. By the way, Shaq got pulled in pretty much the same situation in the 2004 finals. Here’s Durant (and Westbrook) getting pulled in similar circumstances in the 2012 Finals. The list goes on, but get real.
Durant and Westbrook left the game when they were 22 points down with around 4 minutes left to play and Shaq left the game with only 3 minutes left to play. I’m assuming Shaq sat down because he needed a rest. The Lakers were only down by 10 when he sat.
I’m not going to hide my dislike for Lebron James, I dislike him so much that, I won’t draft him in fantasy basketball. He chokes in that too.
But a legend doesn’t sit down!
There was 5:38 left and they were down 24, but wouldn’t it have been worse if it happened your way?
I guess that would be fine if your criticisms of the guy made any sense, but they don’t. They’re a jumble of rants and mistakes and nonsense.
Jesus Christ man, can I get this book you wrote in paper or hardcover? Actually I never knew the story about Steve Kerr though. On the Goodfellas thing, I was watching the movie and I always thought those guys were pretty cool in the movie. I guess not so much anymore after hearing they used a hot rod in some guys butthole.
Durant and Westbrook aren’t legends. They are not held in the same regards as Lebron either. I guess I can see why Lebron would sit. If I was in his situation, I probably would be the same way. I can’t really hold that against him. I was just curious on why he sat. I thought maybe he cramped up again…Although I doubt Michael Jordan would have come out of the game.