I’m sorry, my son, but you’re too late in asking.
You don’t need to like rap ever (maybe you saw one or a million previous references to that). You just need to not harp about your distaste for rap in a self-satisfied way.
Of course, if you just need to make yourself giggle by telling me I’m being patronizing, knock yourself out.
Well, Peter, Paul, and Mary seemed to feel that most problems in life could be solved by beating the shit out of things with a hammer.
…or siccing dragons on it.
Interestingly enough I’m of the “I like pretty much at least a little bit of every kind of music, except really hardcore death metal, screamo/growling, whatever you want to call it.”
I wonder what that makes me.
Most rap is absolute shit and I’ll turn it off the minute I hear something about niggas, bitches, etc. Some rap is absolutely beautiful poetry (I’m looking at you Marshal Mathers!) and is brilliant. Some rap is a lot of fun (Thrift Shop!). Some rap/hip hop is catchy and works in the middle of a country or pop song 
I’ve never met a really hardcore death metal song that was deep and growly or screamy that I liked. The closest I can ever get is prog rock or alternative rock like System of a Down (who are brilliant).
Well, yeah, when the only reason you got so insulted was because you insulted them first. Not that what you got was actually an insult of you personally, just declaring a distaste for those who actually believe what you’ve stated.
Also, note that the only people insulted were actual racists. You claim you aren’t one, therefore you shouldn’t feel insulted.
Did he just call us a “black ho”?
rofl :d
Rap =/= black, so disliking rap == disliking blacks.
nm
I don’t entirely disagree, but people tend to generalize when talking about lightweight topics, like music. No one but the most sickening teenaged fans can sum up their music taste in one or two sentences, but that’s what you have to do when someone asks you what you like. I don’t exactly have the most eclectic music collection, but I still enjoy Pet Shop Boys, Rammstein, Snoop Dogg and Ennio Morricone. If someone asks me what I like, I have to generalize. That includes saying I don’t like country music, but it doesn’t mean Johnny Cash can’t almost make me cry. I suppose I just assume that whomever I’m talking to will translate my lazy, unqualified generalizations into something a bit more moderate.
So yeah, I don’t disagree with you, but I can see where anyone who says “I don’t like rap” is coming from.
I thought that was Trini Lopez?
Ha! My old man had that on vinyl. It wasn’t until much later that I heard PP&M “covering” Mr. Lopez’ work. And it was about 3 minutes ago I learned the song goes back to 1949.
Rap music tends to also be violent, combative, mysogynistic, heavy on the bass, and geared towards younger people. I can see why some people don’t like it. I like some of it, but not all the time. Then again you can make many of those same detractions to various forms of rock like metal. They have lyrics that are violent and combative, etc.
Blacks are also heavily involved in genres like Jazz, R&B, funk, soul, etc. I’ve never heard anyone say ‘I like everything except for Jazz’ or ‘I like everything except funk’. Rap is the only genre where people say that.
You do hear people say ‘I like everything except pop’ but that is more a rejection of what some people likely see as manufactured corporate music.
We used to have a game thread here called “Gangster Rap or Folk?” where people would post synopses of songs, and the players would try to guess if it was a gangster rap or a traditional folk song. Very very hard to tell the difference if you didn’t recognize the particular song from the description.
Guys, traditional folk is jam-packed with glorification of robbery, whoring, drunkenness, materialism, debauchery, murder, revenge, suicide, adultery, misogyny, misandry, misanthropy, blasphemy, rape, nihilism and death.
There’s your traditional white culture.
I’ve always felt that these guys were the true spiritual successors to PP&M.
Were you around in the '30s? It was a pretty common sentiment at the time. Nowadays, when you say “jazz,” most people think of this guy. Go back seventy years or so, though, and you’ll hear a lot of white people talking about how “violent, combative,” and “mysogynistic” jazz was. “Too much bass” didn’t come up as much, but the dire effects of “darkie music” on the nation’s young was a topic of national importance, at least among the dimmer members of our nation’s populace.
I was accused once of being narrow-minded. The reason: I do not like Country Western music. That was in West Texas. This sounds along the same lines.
I used to think I hated rap, but I eventually learned that I mostly just hate the subject matter. For instance, hand me any Snoop Dogg album and I will avoid listening to it, but hand me pretty much and milquetoast inoffensive song featuring Snoop Dogg rapping and I will endlessly sing his praises for how good his flow is.
That doesn’t mean I can never listen to the more violent rap, but usually it has to have a sense of humor about itself, and kind of wink knowingly at the listener that what they’re talking about is completely over the top.
Sure, some people may just not like rap, but I think a lot of people don’t really give the breadth of it a fair shot and find out what kind of rap they do and don’t like. And that’s fine, it really is. I’m not going to force you to listen to MC Frontalot and Epic Rap Battles of history in hopes you’ll find one you like, just like I don’t want you to force chutney down my throat in a hopes of finding a chutney recipe that doesn’t make me want to vomit.
Though really, “except rap” is pretty meaningless. I doubt these people have ever heard traditional Far Eastern music. As cool as Japanese culture is and everything, I think traditional Noh theatre is my special hell. Rap sounds way more like other genres of Western music than that ever will.
You dislike both kinds?!
Were you constantly telling everyone you met about how you didn’t like country music and mocking it with faux slang and talking about what jerks country-music artists were? If so, I’m with your accusers. If not, different lines.
