Who’s the one listening to Celtic music and is taking Friday off to show respect for Robert E. Lee?
Are you suggesting that non-blacks can not and should not be professors of and/or teach African American history? :dubious:
Where on earth are you getting this?
You say over and over that you don’t know anyone who thinks this way. Therefore the color divide thing is a myth. You dismiss other people’s observations as being anecdotal. But your observation is equally anecdotal.
Furthermore, you’re the one trying to prove a negative. Your point has been disproved multiple times. Yet you persist in insisting that it’s all a myth.
I dunno. Your logic has apparently flown right out the window on this one.
I’m really glad that colorism isn’t a problem, real or perceived, among you and yours. But please don’t think that just because it’s not a problem for you, that it’s not a problem for others.
I’m about as white as white can get, however (looks at her butt) there is evidence of other influences.
I will say this, I am thrilled to fucking death that we FINALLY will have a First Lady with an ass. Hot damn! And she dresses fabulously. She doesn’t try to hide it at all.
I just love her. Yeah, her hubby ain’t bad, but I really like Michelle…and her butt.
I never said this dumb shit. Or ‘suggested’ it either. I’m going to give the rest of your post the same respect due the quoted part.
Maybe I’m crazy, but if I found myself writing a sentence like that, I’d probably conclude that my experience was atypical.
I assure you, this occurs to me. It breaks my heart.
Then why did you dismiss my comments?
I asserted that the dark vs. light issue is widely discussed in academia. Therefore, there is significant historical precedent suggesting that this likely continues to be an issue. This is corroborated by contemporary accounts.
You responded:
You’re discounting the work of white historians because they haven’t had “the black experience.”
Having direct experience with an issue is not necessary to study that issue. Historians don’t report from their own experience. Historians study primary sources and previous work on the subject to form hypotheses and conclusions. In some cases, historians’ own experiences are included in the work, but usually not. If anything, they confine it to the preface or something. Otherwise, it would be essays or memoirs, not history. No white historian that I’ve ever met has ever claimed to grasp “the black experience.”* That would be asinine. And it’s also entirely irrelevant to the subject at hand.
You know, back when I was teaching American History: 1945 - The Present, which naturally included a lot of material on the Civil Rights Movement, etc., I was challenged a few times on what I said by older black students. Their experience didn’t match what I was saying. In every single case, I was able to satisfactorily demonstrate that the one thing didn’t necessarily contradict the other. Their personal experience simply happened to be atypical according to the widely accepted historiography of the period. I always encouraged them to talk about their own experiences and we spent time discussing the factors that might have contributed to the discrepancy. These discussions were some of the most valuable parts of the class.
So, Nzinga–I have no idea whether this kind of colorism is typical or atypical, but we can clearly see that it’s common in some communities and not in others.
What factors do you think might account for this?
*I actually did have one professor who claimed he actually understood the black experience. And the Latino experience. And the Irish experience. And on and on and on. He was an equal-opportunity douchebag.
I read the quote more as “he married a black woman instead of a white woman” not the tone of Michelle’s skin.