Does Trump Believe in The Secret?

Of course, Trump at this point just comes off as either delusional or the ultimate con man or perhaps both. But with his stubborn refusal to see reality has made me wonder. Does Trump secretly believe in that Oprah-endorsed woo called The Secret?

The Secret had its heyday as a trend a few years ago. It was based on a self-help book of that name that aired the interesting but batshit crazy idea that “the Universe” was some sort of magical fairy that would grant wishes if you only wished them hard enough. According to The Secret your fate is whatever you want it to be, even unconsciously. Good or bad events are drawn to you by the powerful force of your own desires.

So if you want something badly enough, and convince yourself that you will obtain whatever it is, your deepest wishes will come true no matter what your circumstances are, or how impossible it seems. This is really just the old saw of the Power of Positive Thinking, Fake It Until You Make It self-help palaver on steroids.

Of course, it’s garbage. but does Trump believe it? I doubt he read the book, all those words bore him. But damned if it doesn’t sound like his underpinning philosophy of life. It would explain all the incessant lying in the face of obvious reality. It explains his refusal to accept defeat. He thinks if he just pretends and tries hard enough, eventually reality will reshape itself to his mighty will. He will attract electoral victory to himself from the Universe.

Not gonna work. But tell him that.

No way he does. If he believed the bullshit that is The Secret, he’d never have wasted so much time in court trying to fuck people over. He would have just thanked the universe for providing the over fucking.

Trump believes in the Power of Money. Those who have it can buy whatever they want.

If they can’t buy it (like the election) then there’s something wrong.

according to his niece Mary trump yeah pretty much.

she said both Donald and his father Fred believed in Norman Vincent Peale who promoted the idea that thoughts create reality.

Reminds me of Eliot Rodger. He believed in a book that taught positive thinking and thought he could win the lottery by envisioning himself being the winner. He flew into rages when it didn’t happen.

I don’t know if Trump believes in the power of positive thinking, but a lot of right-wingism these years is predicated on the belief that Something Huge will suddenly come and save the day. Whether it’s Q’s prediction that many Democrats will be sent to Guantanamo Bay, or Powell talking about unleashing the Kraken, or the Supreme Court making Trump the winner, so much is based off of this Big Thing that will happen but never does.

The Secret says that anyone can have whatever they want, if they just want it hard enough. Trump doesn’t believe that. Trump believes that Trump can have whatever he wants, if he just wants it hard enough. Everyone else? Screw them.

Don’t get me wrong, anything metaphysical about The Secret is pure Woo, but I also think it gets seriously misrepresented.

It can be valuable to have strong faith in your ability to attain your desires. Especially before one finds evidence of those desires manifesting. That faith is unwarranted if you do nothing to cause that outcome to manifest, but having that faith can go a long way towards developing and maintaining the motivation required in order to carry out the actions required to actualize your desire. For a great many people, the major thing holding them back is their strong faith that they cannot attain their goals, and therefore quite logically deduce that it would be pointless to try. I might have a flawed view, though, because I came to The Secret via Think and Grow Rich, which preaches pretty much the same thing except you’re supposed to do things to actualize it. If The Secret, which I openly admit I haven’t read, promises that only desire, and not action with strong desire, produces results then it’s just as useless as people claim.

That said, I’d be surprised if Donald Trump didn’t believe some variant of The Secret, and even more so if he didn’t do so implicitly. He’s a narcicist and a psychopath. If I understand the conjunction of those two psychological profiles correctly, that’s kinda the basis of his interpretation of reality.

Gary Lachman wrote a book pretty much arguing exactly that. It’s been a while since I read it, but from my recollection, in it he makes a very persuasive case that Trump is a true believer in Norman Vincent Peale’s “Power of Positive Thinking”, in a very literal way. The “Power of Positive Thinking” was a direct forerunner to “The Secret”.

Lachman stretches that a bit too far, I think, in arguing that Trump is engaged in literal magickal workings, trying to will his desired reality into existence through his public performance, but I thought he made a strong case that Trump really does believe in something closely akin to The Secret.

Trump was a member of Peale’s church when he was growing up, married his first wife there, and has said that Peale considered him Peale’s “greatest student of all time.” If nothing, Peale and his philosophy were clearly extremely influential in forming Donald Trump’s worldview.

I think there is a nitpick/nuance here:

I don’t think Trump thinks if only he wants something “bad enough” it will happen. That implies some effort of will on his part. He really wants this or that to happen and wishes “super hard” for it.

Trump just wants and he expects it to happen…whatever “it” is. His whole life has been one of people never saying no to him. Those that do say no he ejects and gets another yes man in that place. His lackeys make sure Trump never really has to put much effort into anything. The times where we see Trump thwarted he acts out like a child…literally like a child.

I think this is shown because Trump expects every whim and wish of his to be fulfilled. He is not “wishing hard” for one big thing. I expects all things no matter how trivial to be provided to him at any time.

#DiaperDon

I do believe quite strongly that Trump is all-in on an overheated version of Peale’s “Positive Thinking” schtick. Not as a coherent, articulable philosophy, but as a reflection of his absolute narcissism. He really does think that if he wills something strongly enough, he can make it manifest. This is not because of “magical powers,” not exactly, but it’s close, because it comes from a pathologically warped view of the world. He literally perceives himself as the center of existence, with other people as functional components who either serve or oppose him and his purposes. The cosmos exists to revolve around and either validate or repudiate him, personally, depending on his strength of will.

It explains a lot about how he operates.

For just one example, it clarifies his obstinate opposition to COVID testing. If one believes the virus isn’t that bad and is stingy with government money, one could try to make a case for it being not a good allocation of resources. If one believes in the private market, one could say that it’s not an appropriate government service and that those who want to be tested can and should pay for it themselves.

Trump never tried to make either of these arguments. Instead, he dribbled out a word salad about how testing makes the numbers go up, which people rightfully mocked as incoherent. Unless you realign your thinking to his “positive thinking” perspective, and suddenly it comes into greater focus. If you do a lot of testing, it means you’re worried that you might be surrounded by the virus, and that worry — that negative thinking — may cause the virus to manifest. On the other hand, if you want the virus to disappear, you have to believe that it’s disappearing, and one concrete way to do that is to not look for it because you don’t think it’s worth worrying about.

It sounds bananas, and it is bananas. It’s not rational, at all.

But that’s the thing — that’s the mistake most people make when they try to understand Trump, what he does and why he does it and what he’ll do next. He is not a rational person. His mental and emotional processes are broken to a degree that most people simply don’t grasp, or aren’t willing to acknowledge. The way he sees the world is totally alien to most normal people with normal cognitive function. When we try to analyze him, we project our own normalcy, and that’s a mistake.

Consider, for example, the discourse that happened when the news broke on Trump having COVID.

There was a ton of speculation that Trump didn’t really have it — that he had manufactured his illness as yet another in his long line of cons and scams, as a distraction to get people to stop talking about his taxes and horrifying debt situation, and a handy excuse to get out of the next debate. From the perspective of a person who is a rational political actor, this did make sense. It would have served his purposes to make up an illness, and use it to play against his opposition.

As it turned out, he did have the virus, and he really was sick. That early speculation about how it could have been some sort of cover story faded away in the face of facts. But if you really understand Trump, you knew that speculation was nonsense from the very first moment. For Trump, it would have been literally impossible to fake being sick.

Yes, it’s true that he lies, constantly. His whole life is a parade of dishonesty. Out of every five words from his mouth, four are obvious, transparent lies, and the fifth has its fingers crossed behind its back.

But here’s the thing. Every single one of those lies has been a positive exaggeration of his conditions at the time. He lies to make himself appear richer, stronger, healthier than he is. He never, ever lies to feign weakness. Because weakness is the worst possible failure. He is the charter member of his own cult of pretended strength.

That makes sense only in the context of that “positive thinking” zealotry. The lies always go in one direction. Always. He belief in this principle goes down into his bones. In a real sense, this is his religion.

Which is why he couldn’t have been claiming to be sick when he wasn’t. Not even if it would have been useful, bringing him clear political or other advantage, as it could have done under his circumstances. Because he believes that if he says he’s sick when he isn’t, he will be inviting the sickness to him.

He lies to inflate himself. Period. He will never, and I mean never, lie to diminish himself. I defy you to find a single example of this.

Trump’s dysfunction is, in an abstract sense, extremely fascinating. And his emotional framework, in which he defiantly opposes and regularly defeats a world that opposes him, because he’s seeking the love and approval from a monstrous father who shredded his soul at a young age, is deeply pathetic and invites sympathy, or pity even. Or it would, if these neuroses hadn’t manifested as a soulless, greedy sadism that seeks fulfillment in the destruction of everyone and everything around him.

So, yeah. Trump believes in his own version of The Secret, if you want to call it that, but it’s so warped and personalized within the context of his towering pathologies as to be barely recognizable.

When you put these two ideas, and enough money, in the same person you get what @Cervaise just so thoroughly described.

He has experienced lots of positive feedback that his willful wanting really is answered by the Universe coughing up.

Lots of other fatcats have a similar path through life. Just not one powered by quite as much overt crazy as Trump happily exposes for all to see.

I would argue a little bit different than Cervaise. I suspect that Trump always has two things going on: An inner knowledge of what is actually true, versus an exterior that wants to pretend different.

For instance: I suspect that Trump, deep down, knows perfectly well that the virus is raging out of control, but opposed testing because he wanted the numbers to look good. In other words, Trump knew perfectly well that millions were infected but he would have been perfectly happy with everyone else being duped into believing that wasn’t so. A world in which 10 million are actually infected, but the official numbers say only 10,000, is perfectly fine by Trump.

Now, with regards to election fraud, I think Trump genuinely believes that there was massive fraud; I don’t think he’s faking that part.

Yeah, that’s the narcissism kicking in. He is incapable of believing that every one doesn’t love him as much as he himself does.

It could also be that he’s projecting. If he had the opportunity to win by cheating, he’d do so in a heartbeat. So he assumes everyone is cheating.

And he believes that the only way he could lose is if others cheated him out of whatever it is he wants.

I completely agree with this. Trump is essentially a toddler. He wants something so he asks for it, with no thought of the cost or consequences or inconvenience to other people. He’s totally self-centered. And when he doesn’t receive immediate gratification, he whines or throws a tantrum.

The main difference between Trump and a toddler is the lack of compensating cuteness.

I’ve often said about little kids, but never about Trump:

It’s a darn good thing they’re cute or they’d never live to puberty.

While I basically agree with every point you made, and think that you made them beautifully, one thing has always stood out to me.

There’s absolutely no doubt that Trump’s “Victim’s victim” schtick endears him to his supporters, rallies their protective instincts, and solidifies their deep and fundamental sense of tribalism, but … it does seem like the one thing that’s a bit out of character, if just as Machiavellian as every other aspect of him, relative to the rest of his finely-honed, self-aggrandizing bullshit.

It comes across as a loss leader – maybe the one self-deprecating thing that he can do that he perceives as being well worth the price.

And it ranks among the biggest of his incessant lies.

Thoughts ?

Agreed.

Trump is full of

They’re always picking on me! Poor meeee! What did I do to them? It’s so unfair!!1!

Given the artificially inflamed aggrieved mindset of the base, this crap goes down like honey. It triggers thoughts like

If even our almighty Trump is being picked on, no wonder poor persecuted me can’t get ahead either; the forces arrayed against us are just sooooo ginourmous. Yuge in fact!

If he was a full-bore mental tyrant his line would go more like

They tried picking on me, the fools. Now they’re all dead or wish they were. I’m that baaaad!

Which would make a slightly different crowd of sycophants squeal with a sadistic version of delight.

I disagree quite strongly that this schtick is self-deprecating or inconsistent.

To be self-deprecating is to confess flaws and weakness. There is no weakness in claiming that people are constantly trying to tear you down. The only way that would be weak is if you say that people are successfully tearing you down. And Trump doesn’t say that.

No, his version of the schtick is quite congruent with his overall Look How Awesome I Am message, in two ways.

  • Of course everyone wants to take my stuff away, I have the greatest stuff so naturally all those losers would target me and want to steal it.

  • Of course it’s completely unfair that anyone would oppose me, I’m the greatest person ever with all the answers to everything so clearly the correct choice is to be loyal to me and do whatever I say and anything else is a cosmic injustice.

The only way Trump would diminish himself by this line of reasoning is if he were to say “these terrible people fight me and occasionally they win and I lose.” He doesn’t say that. He says “these terrible people fight me and it’s awful that they do but I beat them anyway.