Dog Breeding Question...

This is my first post here but ive been lurking/reading here for quite some time.

I have a question regarding what type of puppies a dog thats a wolf-husky and a dalmation-pitbull mix would come out as? Which traits would be dominant?

Bottom line, what can we expect?

thanks for any and all responses

Do you have a dog expecting a litter? (I’m trying not to deliver a rant about irresponsible breeding of dogs, here. I do rescue & foster…argh. I’ll stop right here.) :frowning:

Anyhow, with that mix I don’t think anyone will be able to predict the outcome. My guess would be the pups would be more wolf/husky in appearance.

Providing your cat has been restrained,

a muscular junkyard dog with a spotted reputation?

The result may be random. You may end up with dogs that look a lot like wolf-huskies, or dalmation-pit bulls, or something in between. God forbid Wolf and Pit Bull traits are dominant in the resulting mix.

Breeds have been created through hundreds of years of selective breeding, for certain desired traits. Let’s take the Labradoodle, for instance - a Labrador and Poodle mix. You want a non-shedding dog with a Lab build and temprement to serve as seeing eye dogs for those allergic to dander. The first litter – maybe a quarter of the dogs will be non-shedding with a Lab build, a quarter will have a Poodle build with Lab fur, a quarter will exhibit mostly Poodle traits, and a quarter will exhibit mostly Lab traits. Only a couple of the non-shedding Labs have the Lab temprement that’s desirable for a seeing eye dog. You take the non-shedding dogs with the Lab build and temprement, and breed those together. Maybe a quarter or a third of the dogs from the resulting litter will exhibit your desired traits. Breed those dogs, repeat, and in about ten to twenty generations, when you’re guaranteed that all the dogs from a litter of two like dogs will have consistent traits, you’ve got a breed. Cockapoos and Schnoodles aren’t considered breeds, because the results of breeding one Cockapoo to another won’t produce consistent results.

Almost every breed out there is a mutt in reality, with it origins in other dog breeds. The Poodle is supposedly a mix of the Portuguese Water Dog, Barbet, Lagotta Romagnolo, and other now-extinct water dog breeds. The Golden Retriever is a mix of the Flat Coat Retriever and English Water Dog. Breeding efforts began in 1835, and the breed was recognized in 1911.

Creatng new breeds is typically thought of as politicaly incorrect now, considering that there’s hundreds of breeds that prety much meet every conceivable purpose out there, and that there is an abundance of unwanted mutts that waste away in shelters. Consider the Charlee Bear, a planned mix of the Portuguese Water Dog and Soft-Coated Wheaten Terrier. Why? Both dogs have very similar temprements, and they’re both non-shedding, so what’s the point, except that “it looks cute”? I wonder if the “Humane Society Brown Dog” can be considered a breed now …

As for dominant traits, they are out there. Take a Chow’s black tongue – it’ll stick around for several generations, long past the original infusion of Chow genes.

Well, just on the subject of “what would a wolf/dog hybrid look like”:

http://www.arkanimals.com/WildSide/chybrid2.htm

I think this can be extrapolated to any litter of mixed breed dogs. It’s always going to be “pot luck”, a “crap shoot”.

If you really wanna know, I’ll let you wade through some of this. Do a Google search under some of the terms in this link. I have no clue what “polygenic” means, but it sounds relevant to your question.

http://www.dogwoodshelties.net/dog_info/Genetics/BreedingAppear.htm

Yes, the results will be pretty random. We have a chow/husky mix, and she looks pretty much exactly like a chow except she has a better build, a tie-died pink and blue tongue, and doesn’t have the chow’s squashed-in nose.

Just remember that ANY dog that has recent wolf ancestry is probably going to be unsuitable as a pet except for the most dedicated owners. Likewise, anyone who owns a pit bull or pit bull cross should be aware of the breed’s tempermental quirks.

You could end up with puppies that aren’t wolfish or pitbullish in temperment, but you MUST be very careful socializing these dogs. You MUST make sure they are dominated continuously!

As a general rule of thumb, in cross-breeding “wild type” traits tend to be dominant over “mutant” alleles - the latter being the kind that are probably fixed recessives in many dog breeds. Therefore a cross including wolf alleles will probably look more like a wolf than anything else. However, I would agree that the kind of cross described would be pretty unpredictable for many traits.

Goose, “polygenic” just means the trait is controlled by several different genes - e.g. coat color, body size, etc. - rather than by a single gene at a particular locus (e.g. human brown/blue eye color, although even that is influenced by several differnt genes besides the main one).

I know I didnt specify tbis in the OP, but what happened was not due to my irrisponsible breeding, but rather a VERY persistant neighbor dog who is a pitbull/dalmation mix and my dog which is a wolf/husky mix (not very much wolf it seems)

anyway, what happened was the neighbors dog broke into our back yard, it ripped off one of the boards on the gate…

so now we’re stuck with a dog whom we were intending to breed with a husky… bred with a dalmation/pitbull mix

thank you for all the replies, and sorry for not clarifying about what had happened…