About 3 months ago (June 15th) my neighbors dog broke into my backyard through our side gate and mated with my dog (wolf/husky mix) and the neighbors dog (dalmation/pitbull).
Update:
Its now 3 months since then, and she has just delivered her first puppy. It has a brown body and a white head with brown ears. Extremely Cute! (though most puppies are)
Question:
Does anyone here have a link to a page with newborn puppies which are either: 1.) pitbull 2.) husky/wolf 3.) dalmation? Ive searched google and havent been able to dig up any pictures of newborns, just puppies that are at least 3-4 weeks.
Thanks for any and all help, any and all replies are much appreciated.
It’s not that we’re ignoring you, it’s that we just can’t help you, offhand.
Just curious–why do you need to know? If you’re thinking of lawsuits, i.e. “proving” that your neighbor’s dog did the dirty with your dog, then I’d advise you to chill and think again. Not worth the hassle, IMO.
Or do ya just wanna “ooh” and “aah” over pix of cute puppies? Well, me, too, and if you find some, let me know. Here’s a tip: try adding “jpg” to your Google searches, like “dalmatian newborn puppies jpg”. You’ll end up having to sort through a bunch of classified ads and things like that, but hey.
nope, not thinking of suing anyone over anything. The neighbor had has problems with this dog breaking into other’s backyards before
It was mainly for curiousity that I was wondering which traits were truely dominant in the newborn puppies. Sort of a followup to my first post asking what the puppies would come out looking as.
Thanks for the reply though.
here’s a link to the other post incase your interested at all:
It’s too early to tell with newborn puppies to tell which traits will be dominant, so I’m not sure how looking at photos of brand new puppies will be informative.
If you are talking temperament, only time will tell. Purebred puppies are evaluated by breeders at seven weeks for both conformation, health and temperament. Serious breeders will have a professional come in & evaluate the litter at that age, and it is a very comprehensive process.
There is no way you can predict traits based only on the types of dogs involved. There may be some assumptions you can make based on the breeds & individual dogs, but those are only assumptions. Even in carefully bred litters where the DNA of sire, dam & previous offspring have been mapped, few accurate predictions can be made prior to seven weeks, and even then there are unknown factors. Temperament is very influenced by training, interaction & socialisation. Markings & coat type can change dramatically between birth & one year old. Serious health problems like thyroid malfunction, entropian & hip dysplasia rarely manifest before 6 months of age. With mixed breeds, size can be difficult to predict, though bone size (not foot size) can be an indicator. The largest puppy in the litter isn’t necessarily going to be the largest adult. Case in point: A friend & I have littermates from a very good litter of Rottweiler puppies (Both sire & dam titled working & show champions, sire part of a DNA mapping project.) My male weighed 10.5 lbs at 8 weeks, her female weighed 10lbs. Now at 8 months old, mine is 85lbs, & hers is about 20lbs lighter; both pups are quite lean.
Again, are you curious about health predictions, genetic faults, temperament, working ability, overall appearance, what? And again, I don’t believe there is much you can accurately predict at this point. When you take it in for first puppy shots at 5 weeks, your vet may be able to give you some pointers.
If you only have one pup in the litter, one assumption I can make is that it may have bite inhibition/manners problems later unless you get it together with other very young puppies. And it will probably be brown and white.
First of All, thank you to for a very informative and lenghty reply. At this point I was speaking mainly about wondering what (generally) the puppies appearance would be. I’ll keep updateing (with pictures as well) the puppies as they continue to grow further. Im sure time will tell.
Ivar:
I dont think its very prudent at ALL to call ME an idiot. First of all, we were planning to have this dog bred with one of her kind (a husky). The turn of events happened because she had not been spayed and the neighbors dog had broken into our back yard before we had gotten a chance to find another decent male to breed her with (the first one we had chosen was too young and didnt know what to do, and she wouldnt let him do the deed). The dog breaking into our backyard was ENTIRELY unplanned for and WAS NOT because of any choice.
WE DID NOT INTEND TO SPAY OUR DOG BECAUSE WE PLANNED TO LET HER BE BRED.
Therefore, the only idiot HERE is YOU
Im sorry, I hate to make enemies, but if you are so naive to call someone which you probably didnt even read the previous threads to an IDIOT. Then so be it!
Also, I really dont know why im taking the time to reply to you, as this is ENTIRELY off topic. I didnt ask for a rant (much less a non deserved one with name calling) about breeding, I had asked for what tbe puppies would have been looking closer to.
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Thanks to ANY and ALL people who are mature in replying and dont result to childish name calling.
Also, the puppies are here, so, whatever might have been done before (re:spaying) is a bit late.Im dealing with it.
Im gonna end this here, it just really pisses me off
i’ll post pictures of the puppies as soon as we get the pictures developed. At this point it isnt any problem what they really look like (they’re very cute anyway) but was just a matter of curiousity.
You’re welcome. That said, my job gets a lot easier if you don’t give as good as you got. Don’t return insults – email me or Chronos or Jillgat and we’ll take care of it.
While I don’t think you’re an idiot, I wonder why anyone would want to breed their dog, if it’s not a purebred. In the U.S., we euthanize millions of dogs each year simply because they are unwanted.
Why did you want to breed her? If for money, that’s cool, if you intend to be a reputable breeder and take good care of the resulting litters. But if it’s for curiousity, to show the kiddies the miracle of birth, or just for the heck of it, those aren’t great reasons, IMHO.
(Still doesn’t make you an idiot though…)
However, the next door neighbor, with a dog known to get out of his yard, is acting irresponsibly for not having the dog neutered. (Again, maybe not an idiot, but at least irresponsible… They should either keep him in, or get him neutered.)
i’ll admit, I probably shouldnt have returned the insult back at the guy, but at the time of posting, it just made me a bit frustrated to be called an idiot. Im sorry, i’ll try and refrain from doing so again.
ShouldBeWorking:
Well, the reason for breeding was basically as follows, partially it was for the money (though i realize there isnt much to be made) and partially it was because we had a husky/germanshepherd mix before which was spayed when she was preganant when I was growing up and never had puppies. I wanted her to have at least one litter or 2 before we decided to spay her and this just happened to happen with the wrong dog. It was definately NOT to show the kiddies the miracle of birth and not just for the heck of it. I appreciate that the way you stated your opinion was just that, not condecending and name calling like a previous reader posted here.
I believe we are all entitled to an opinion, and I try to respect everyone and treat others (both on and offline) as I would want to be treated.
I also agree that some of this belongs in the great debate/imho section, though the thread wasnt intended to end up this way.
Owell
Any replies and opinions are respected and welcomed, I will post updates (with pictures) once i get the film developed (soon)
I’ve heard people saying that it’s healthy/healthier for a dog to have a litter of puppies before being spayed, but I’ve never determined if it’s really true.
I’ve owned 4 dogs, all females, and I wouldn’t breed them, even if they were AKC (2 were). But that’s me.
Well one reason we wanted her to have a litter was for our own experience of raising the pups. As well as ive heard the same as you have that its healthier for them to have a litter before spaying. I think it basically comes down to personal choice.
But as far as breeding for the “heck of it” I agree that there is an overpopulation problem and people shouldnt JUST breed for this reason.
The “healthier for a dog to have a litter” thing is a common myth. Spayed & neutered dogs are much less likely to develop certain cancers…I don’t have a cite handy, but I often visit a Rottweiler breeders’ & info board where this has been discussed at legnth.
isam I’m not sure how to best predict appearance in a mix, I don’t think it can be done with accuracy. Most puppies morph quite a lot as they grow…ears will be huge until they grow into them, they’ll go through lanky pinhead stages, rear legs will get longer than front legs for a while. My latest Rottie pup went through a “tiny head” stage, then suddenly his head was so huge we thought he would tip over on his nose, & now at 8 months he is starting to get proper proportions. Feed them good food, play with them lots (glad there’s more than one!) and find them good homes.
With that heritage, these puppies are bound to turn into fairly large & interesting looking dogs! The good thing about mutts is that you way reduce the chance of recessive genes producing breed specific problems like hip & elbow dysplasia, deafness, etc.
The one litter evaluation I attended involved such doggie esoterica as thickness of ear leather, set of shoulder blades, eye shape, height of toes (really), critique of gait (front, side & rear) & so on & on. And there are many things that still cannot be accurately predicted.
Well, the healthier dogs thing may be a myth, but regardless I doubt 1 or 2 litters before spaying would make a huge difference …
As far as the “mutt” thing goes, I agree with your comment it’ll weed out the bad genes if nothing else, and I think that these dogs will get into good homes regardless.
As I said before, we’re not quite sure on whether we will or wont breed her again (though with a husky/wolf next time) or if we’re gonna spay her after this litter is through with. Though we’re sorta leaning toward breeding her with her own kind.
Thank you for your comments and holding off on the rants about what should or could have been done. Ive got that one too many times. These pups are adorable and im sure that even though they dont have the lineage/papers … they will definately get into loving and good homes.
Again, i’ll post pics as soon as they come back from developing (hehe, im sure i’ll get ranted about “mutty” they are by the same people … owell, at least to me all puppies are cute)
It doesn’t matter to me one bit whether folks have their dogs spayed or not, but I do have the prize-winning “idiot non-spaying dog owner” story.
My neighbor had two cute little Heinz 57 lap dogs, Sophie and Baxter. They were “inside” dogs, let out only for potty calls, in a non-fenced yard.
He didn’t want Sophie to have puppies. So he had Baxter neutered.
[pause]
Yes, that’s what I said–he didn’t want Sophie to get pregnant, so he had Baxter fixed.
And the reason I found this out was because I was out there in his back yard one fine summer afternoon, along with most of my neighbors, as an interested audience, watching an enormous stray chow dragging Sophie around on the end of his penis while she yelped in pain, having spotted and mounted her when she went out to pee after lunch.
Of course, once dogs are in the “tie”, there’s nothing you can do but wait until the swelling subsides. Poor Sophie.
The neighbor stood there wringing his hands helplessly. “I didn’t want her to have puppies, so I had Baxter neutered, and now this…”
Geez. :rolleyes:
And we never did find out what the puppies looked like, because shortly thereafter he passed out drunk in front of the TV set for the umpteenth time, leaving the dogs to bark on the front porch all night for the umpteenth time, and one of the neighbors called Animal Control for the umpteenth time, and this time they caught both of them. We never saw Sophie or Baxter again.
It is a myth that is best to allow a female to have a litter before spaying. Best time to spay is before she even has her first heat. For every heat a female goes through, her chances of developing health problems later on increases ten fold.
I have some pretty strong feelings regarding the breeding discussed in this thread, but since this is GQ, I’ll keep them to myself.
Here’s a tip: try adding “jpg” to your Google searches, like “dalmatian newborn puppies jpg”. You’ll end up having to sort through a bunch of classified ads and things like that, but hey.