Dog says on the tape that the son had told the family he was in love with the girl. I think it’s kind of tasteless to suggest (on the basis of no evidence at all) that the son is himself a racist who doesn’t really love the girl and just has a thing for black chicks.
You’re right about that, though I said “if”, but I still say he can truly be in love with one black girl, and be as racist as dad towards others. He absolutely did the right thing for anyone not last name Chapman, because fans of the show, especially black ones, have a right to know what kind of guy he really is.
Paedophile A turning in Paedophile B over an argument is a good thing, always. But then paedophile A maybe now comes out looking good and then goes back to doing what he does. If non racist son did this to expose his racist dad, then I appluad him. If he’s a racist as well who did this in a moment of anger, and he really loves dad and family and is regretting it now, they I say he did not do the right thing for his family. Imagine going back and being around a family you love and they love for you for the rest of your life, knowing you cost them all their livelihood and big bucks over a moment of anger. That’s all I’m saying. The end result is good, and that’s the best for non family, but the reason behind it may be the honorable one it appears to be.
I mean, would it surprise anyone if “Dog” himself has at some point had sex with or dated black women? Not me.
It’s lucky for him that that Iranian dude didn’t use the “n word” on his visit to New York. Otherwise, we’d probably be marching into Tehran right now.
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Gosh what a big surprise to learn somebody who is known as “Dog the Bounty Hunter” sometimes uses racial slurs.
:rolleyes:
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I’m sorry but what the fuck is that supposed to mean? :dubious:
[QUOTE=SHAKES]
I’m sorry but what the fuck is that supposed to mean? :dubious:
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Lol what the fuck do you think it means?
[QUOTE=brazil84]
Lol what the fuck do you think it means?
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That all uneducated white people are racist?
That’s why I ask, because surely that’s not what you mean. Right? I’m giving you benefit of the doubt here.
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That all uneducated white people are racist?
That’s why I ask, because surely that’s not what you mean. Right? I’m giving you benefit of the doubt here.
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Right.
[QUOTE=brazil84]
Right.
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Well then, what exactly do you mean?
[QUOTE=MelCthefirst]
Wait a minute…this is all about using the term ‘nigger’?
Here it has become quite common place amongst the darker skinned to refer to each other or to people who do all the work…
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Well, I see it like this-I can abuse and shit on my family (well, verbally) 'til the cows come home. But if someone else does it, I see red.
I think THAT’S why it’s more acceptable for black people to call each other niggers. Because they’re not “outsiders”, if you will.
As for Dog, meh. He’s a dick anyway. (And what’s up with the mullet?)
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Well then, what exactly do you mean?
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That anyone who calls himself “Dog the Bounty Hunter” is probably a rough, violent person (or sees himself as a rough violent person) who won’t blanch at using foul language, which includes racial slurs.
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Granted either way it exposed a bad dude, but it also hurts the entire family, the TV crew, etc, some of which may not feel the way “Dog” does.
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What’s the saying? Lie down with Dog…
And i can’t believe that you think that how this affects the TV crew is relevant to this story.
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]
[QUOTE=Playkcab]
Ouch, that has to sting. He probably just sent his father’s career into the shitter for some girl he met less than a year ago.
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You say that like you think there’s something wrong with it. He tells his dad he’s in love with this girl and all the dad can do is call her a “fucking nigger?” Fuck him and fuck his show.
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Seconded.
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So let me get this straight. Dog says to his son on the phone “You can’t date this nigger because we say nigger a lot around here and somebody might tape us and sell it to the Enquirer,” and his son tapes it and sells it to the Enquirer? God that’s funny!
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Well, I just listened to all five minutes and some-odd of the recording, and what he said was more along the lines of, “…We say nigger around here…we don’t mean ‘you fucking scum nigger without a soul,’…but America would think we mean that… .”
And my question four Dog is: Well, what exactly *do * you mean when you use “nigger”?
And he also mentioned that “if Lisa [Tucker’s sister, perhaps?] was dating a nigger, we would all say, “Fuck you,” and you know it.”
So, it looks as if his agita isn’t about some unprincipaled girl; it’s all about the “nigger”.
Yeah, fuck him.
And *Wee Bairn ** has a point: It’s possible that Tucker could be in love with a Black women but still be racist. I certainly wouldn’t have a hard time believing it. And if that’s the case, fuck him, too.
*I say this because, sometimes, when I encounter (in passing) White male/Black female couples, I get a strange vibe from the White dudes. Y’know, like (at the least) an apprehensive kind of vibe. I realize that the apprehension I sense might be based on the White dude’s fear–based either on actual experience or some bullshit that other people have fed him–that I, as a Black man, will give him grief about his being with a Black woman (funny, when, all things being equal, I couldn’t care less, except maybe to hope that it represents some kind of progress). Sometimes, though, sometimes I get an unmistakable whiff of that “yeah, nigger, that’s right, I’m with one of *your * women 'cause I have the money/education/success/whatever that (I think/she thinks) you don’t have” vibe. And I’m thhinking: Dude, WTF?!
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*I say this because, sometimes, when I encounter (in passing) White male/Black female couples, I get a strange vibe from the White dudes. Y’know, like (at the least) an apprehensive kind of vibe. I realize that the apprehension I sense might be based on the White dude’s fear–based either on actual experience or some bullshit that other people have fed him–that I, as a Black man, will give him grief about his being with a Black woman (funny, when, all things being equal, I couldn’t care less, except maybe to hope that it represents some kind of progress). Sometimes, though, sometimes I get an unmistakable whiff of that “yeah, nigger, that’s right, I’m with one of *your * women 'cause I have the money/education/success/whatever that (I think/she thinks) you don’t have” vibe. And I’m thhinking: Dude, WTF?!
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Yeah, but in this particular case would he really sell out his Dad if he thought his GF was nothing more than a “Nigger?”
I’m not saying that kind of thing doesn’t happen.
[QUOTE=SHAKES]
Yeah, but in this particular case would he really sell out his Dad if he thought his GF was nothing more than a “Nigger?”
I’m not saying that kind of thing doesn’t happen.
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Yeah, I could see him doing that, if he’s angry enough. Remember human nature/emotionality/race issues are complicated things, especially mixed together.
What he’s hearing about his girl might make him angry for any or all of the following reasons: (a) he’s simply angry at Dog for calling the woman he cared about a derogatory name;* (b) Dog’s calling her that reminds him that, deep down, he thinks of her as that too; or (c) if going against everything he’s been taught and shown is tearing him up enough.
- There’s another website that talks about buring inner-city pathology(ies) that I visit where a poster compared this theory to the “momma theory.” I can say (and believe) whatever I want to about my momma, but you’re not allowed to go there.
L’il Pluck, very interesting post and perspective in your last paragraph; I’ve noticed that too, or at least thought it, rightly or wrongly.
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]
IBut if the son is just as racist as dad, uses the same language, but also just so happnens to have a thing for black chicks, and really loves dad and family and just did this in a moment of anger that now he regrets, then I’m not so sure.
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You got as much evidence for this “if” as you do for an “if” that makes the son a anti-abortion terrorist, a wife beater, or a cat molestor. Sure it’s possible that the guy could be racist, but if he has a black girlfriend I somehow doubt that he’s of the same caliber as his dad.
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And i can’t believe that you think that how this affects the TV crew is relevant to this story.
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you’re right, it isn’t. I retract that.
you with the face, you may not agree, but I can’t imagine a guy so racist that he wouldn’t date a really hot black woman who wanted to date him. And i know people like that- I have no idea the case here, just throwing it out, that the son isn’t automatically someone taking a stance against racism- he may have just been pissed off. Hell I once saw a Jerry Springer (not the best source, natch) where a racist guy was dating a black girl, and he called nigger to her face.
[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting]
- There’s another website that talks about buring inner-city pathology(ies) that I visit where a poster compared this theory to the “momma theory.” I can say (and believe) whatever I want to about my momma, but you’re not allowed to go there.
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Ahem, post #69.
You know, I think Dog is an ignorant, most probably racist dumbass. How in the world can he not control his language if he believes it threatens everything he worked so hard to build? But it was just a phone conversation, not a call to arms. Like these folks seem to think.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21602240/
If anyone is inciting violence it’s the Enquirer, for publishing the tape, not Dog. He was just being an idiot asshole in a private conversation with his son.
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
You know, I think Dog is an ignorant, most probably racist dumbass. How in the world can he not control his language if he believes it threatens everything he worked so hard to build? But it was just a phone conversation, not a call to arms. Like these folks seem to think.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21602240/
If anyone is inciting violence it’s the Enquirer, for publishing the tape, not Dog. He was just being an idiot asshole in a private conversation with his son.
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Well, they’re right that Dog’s comments were demeaning to Black women (and not just Black women), and his attitudes do represent an attack on interracial relationships (I’m assuming they meant romantic relationships). Having listened to the taped conversation, I think, however, that the stuff about inciting violence (I take it that they meant “directly inciting”) is over the top.
I must also disagree, by the way, that the Enquirer, by publicizing the conversation, was inciting violence. Do you really believe this? If so, why?
[QUOTE=Guinastasia]
Ahem, post #69.
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I included that paragraph to refer to a particular type of discussion going on about the topic, not just the phenomenon itself.
If you’re interested in the website I’m referring to, email me.