For all the time you spent typing that, you could have actually found and posted a cite.
Close. Hendershott’s testimony can’t be introduced into evidence in a criminal trial of someone else – it’s hearsay.
But certainly Hendershott can be called to testify in that trial. And if he testifies differently, then his prior testimony can be used to impeach his current testimony; this is one exception to the hearsay rule.
Agreed. There’s more than enough there to justify an indictment, and more than enough there to justify a conviction (if believed by a jury and if there’s no defense counter).
Most Latinos in the Miami-Dade County area aren’t Mexican.
They’re far more likely to be Cuban, Puerto Rican, Columbian or something else.
So why is that cause for a civil suit? “He’s not done anything provably criminal. We can’t prosecute him; so we’ll sue him.” just seems wrong.
I’m going to have a word with someone, if thats alright with you ?
Anecdotes are not generally speaking useful cites, as we would have not one scrap of evidence that you actually talked to a person before coming back.
As demonstrated here: “No, I called up my buddy who’s a London cop, and he told me that they racially profile all the time, there’s no policy against it whatsoever.”
The above is a blatant falsehood. Note how it is indistinguishable from actual true testimony in the absence of an authoritative link.
I don’t mind if you have a word with someone. Using that conversation as a cite is another matter, however.
Because civil liability extends farther than criminal liability does. There are plenty of acts that are tortious – you fail in a duty of care that you owe me – but not criminal.
I remember a thread where we discussing migrant workers in the U.K. and you making the comment that "they "were necessary because they did the jobs that “We”, as in yourself and all the other Brits, wouldn’t do.
Unfortunately you revealed yourself as an immigrant to the U.K. quite a while afterwards.
Liars need good memories **Gyrate ** , pity that you haven’t got one eh ?
So don’t give me lectures on what I should or shouldn’t be doing.
Your not just a coward, but a liar as well.
Or how about we raise wages to a point where Americans find them attractive? Being a garbage man is a not fun job, but we don’t think “OMG, no one will do that job for minimum wage so we should bring in people from another country.”
Now, if we raise the wages to what the job actually deserves and we are still short workers, let’s allow people from Mexico to come do them—via a guest worker program. Seems to work for Canada.
Yeah, that was a helluva swim. The Rio Grande is nothing, I tell you. Nothing!
I do tend to switch the country I identify with depending on context (long-term current residence versus upbringing and citizenship) but I’ve never intended to portray myself as a native Brit. If I confused you at some point, I apologize (or should I say “apologise”? I also switch spelling.).
Ouch. I am wounded. Clearly this makes your argument much more compelling.
Incidentally my mother was an immigrant to the US from Hungary. And her mother was an immigrant from Romania to Hungary (although ethnically Hungarian). You just can’t trust us peripatetic types.
It should be obvious, but there are many jobs out there that are priced as high as people are willing to pay for the associated service, but still priced sufficiently low that the labor pool for those jobs is very small.
The jobs are priced at what the labor market will currently bear. Why waste time and expense with a guest worker program when we could simply increase legal immigration quotas to match job availability?
You are not allowed to call another poster a liar in this forum. Save it for the Pit and do not do it again in Great Debates.
But they are useful if I ask him about it and then ask him the relevant regulation or procedural number designation etc.
If you’re a non copper you could spend years wading through reams of directions etc applicable to serving police officers.
I thought that it would be more genuine then much of the disinformation put into cyberspace by individuals, interest groups or the media.
Is that alright with you then ?
If you like I’ll drop everything, and insist my contact stops doing whatever he’s doing so that we can sort this very important issue out.
Or were you hoping that I’d go boo hoo, everyones picking on me, I’m going to stop posting my opinions ?
In your dreams.
Can the next coward step up to the mark please.
Oh sorry ! I didn’t realise that you were only "identifying " with Brits, well thats alright then .
Personally I identify with Shamanistic Buddhists, did I tell you about my chat with the Dalai Lama ?
I didn’t really have a chat with him, I was just identifying with someone who had.
Enough already, Lust4Life. Your last couple of posts have been flaming, and that’s OK in the Pit but not here. When you’re in GD, stick to making actual arguments and don’t attack other posters.
It seems to me that, instead of protesting angrily, you could have left it at that at the beginning of this side discussion. As you (up to this point) had not given any indication you intended to produce an authoritative cite, it’s not really on us to assume you were planning to.
Oh, for crying out loud.
So this is the guidelines issued to police in regard to how they carry out stop and search, with reference to their duty to record ethnicity among other things.
Here are the relevant paragraphs:
Bolding is mine.
Lust4Life’s original claim was:
Para 4.12 above shows that the first part of this is false: police do not have to record everyone they speak to in the street. They do have to record everyone they search.
Para 5.1 and 5.3 above show that the second part of Lust4Life’s claim is also false: the police have to monitor their stats so that they - and we - can be sure that where people of any ethnicity are being disproportionately subjected to Stop and Search then this has been done with good reason - but there is absolutely no requirement to keep the numbers even across all ethnicities.
At any rate, L4L can now refer to the appropriate regulations when asking his mate. Or, we could drop this hijack.
How un-American!
I know. But, the ones in the southern part of the county, where a lot of farming happens, are mostly Mexican, IME. (In Miami-Dade County, BTW, all county government publications are printed in English, Spanish, and Haitian Creole – there’s a lot of Haitians there, too.)