Donald Trump is now a birther

He hasn’t really, rather coy about that. So far, he just scolds liberals for being so hateful and intolerant of morons, seething with rage, that sort of thing.

Donald Trump, unsurprisingly, is not exactly being honest when he says that Obama’s grandmother said that he was born in Kenya. In a telephone interview with Ron McRae, with Vitalis Akech Ogombe acting as translator, Sarah Obama agrees with the claim that she was present at Barack’s birth, then corrects herself when asked about it. Here’s how that portion of the interview actually went:

Also, reading the rest of Trump’s letter, he comes off as an immature prick whose first instinct is to insult everyone who disagrees with him. He makes Sarah Palin look thick-skinned and stoic in the face of criticism.

The interpreter corrected her?

http://www.plaintruth.com/the_plain_truth/2009/08/did-obamas-grandmother-say-he-was-born-in-kenya.html

I haven’t paid much attention to the birther nonsense, but I did see Trump on CNN this AM. He claims that one reason Obama is “hiding” his real birth certificate is that it might have him listed as a Muslim.

First question: Is there really some other birth certificate out there that we haven’t seen, or is the CoLB the only thing that Hawai’i issues?

Second Question: Does Hawai’i (or any state) actually list a religion for a baby? That would seem a bit odd…

As if you needed another reason to think Trump is full of shit:

Sarah Palin Supports Donald Trumps Birther Quest

Funny that that piece of paper “of very little significance” is enough to get you;
a driver’s license,
a passport,
a seat in the US Congress . . .

CMC fnord!
Way to go Chen019! Do you need a list of all the people you really don’t want to quote on this subject?Here’s a couple to get you started; Philip Berg, Jerome Corsi, Orly Taitz.
Oh yeah, and of course, Donald “The Jamaican” Trump!

Do these birthers know that it doesn’t even matter whether Obama was born in the US or not for him to be a “natural born citizen”?

I don’t think they do, actually. They point at this law of the time (can’t find a cite right now) that says that at least one parent has to have been a citizen of the U.S. for X number of years (where X is less than his mom was ALIVE) to pass on citizenship, or something like that.

ETA: Found it, quoted in this Snopes article on the subject.

The state does store a slightly longer certificate, but it doesn’t list religion, or really any extra information other then the name of the attending physician. The State apparently won’t release them unless instructed to by a court (which is why the shorter form exists), but various Hawiian officials have verified that Obama has the longer certificate.

Thats at least debatable. But it doesn’t really matter, since you need to believe several extremely improbable things to think he wasn’t born in the US.

Teach the controversy, y’know? It allows him plausible deniability. He’d have made a great Richard Nixon.

Trump is learning . He was on Crowleys show today. He kept at the birther thing for the whole time. He claimed he wanted to talk about other things but never got past the birth rant. He has also adopted the right wing strategy of talking louder and louder when she attempted to ask questions. Then he repeated the birther thing again.

Not that I trust them on anything really, but this page on WND shows what I’m willing to believe is actually an original copy of the birth certificate of a baby born a few days later in Hawaii. There does not seem to be any spot for religion on the form. It’s similar to what I have from Boston in 1978, with the exception that mine doesn’t include the race of my parents. I don’t know what Massachusetts (or the City of Boston) would issue me if I asked for a new copy. I think the one I have is the one my parents got shortly after I was born, which also seems to be the case with the woman in the WND link.

In threads on this subject various posters from various states who have requested a new copy of their birth certificate in recent years have stated that they received something that looks exactly like Obama’s. That format has become standard. My reissue from Maryland in 2001 looks like his. Well, except for the state, and my name, and my date of birth . . . But, besides that, I’m the President!

Anyway, if you asked for a new copy, I strongly expect that you would get something that looked just like Obama’s and mine.

I’m not going to go digging through the firebox right now, but I have a copy of my original birth certificate (which is a photostat of a page handwritten into Maryland’s vital records), the original of the suitable for framing certificate that the hospital gave my mother, and the aforesaid reissued birth certificate.

I’ll give you one guess as to which of those is the only one with any legal value.

Obviously the 2001 copy would be legally valid. But wouldn’t the original photostat also be valid if it had a raised seal from whatever relevant government agency is in charge of such things? The copy I have has does, and I’m pretty sure it’s what I’ve used to get other forms of ID, including a passport. And, without making you dig through old paperwork, the 2001 copy doesn’t contain the place of birth or attending physician, does it?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42519951/ns/politics-more_politics

Course, she could be lying. I mean, anyone who worked for a republican governor would certainly lie to protect the democratic campaign.

Palin claims Obama who was not wealthy at the time ,spent 2 million dollars covering up his birth certificate. How is that done? Who do you give the money to? How does that cover it up? How do you get newspapers to print stories 50 years ago?
Trump thinks doctors and nurses who deliver babies should remember each and every one of them. Why can’t they tell about Obamas birth? It would be amazing if they could.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/hawaiian-official-confirms-obama-delivered-by-doctor/
How much did this guy get?

Ah hell, to the fire box!

The old one does have an embossed seal; it was not accepted for my passport. It does not state religion; it does state the “race” of my parents, though, oddly, not mine. :smiley: It also included such interesting columns as “Number of children born to mother: Other children now living, Born alive now dead, Born dead” Go figure. Yes, it includes the name of the doctor who certified that I was a live birth.

Anyway, the new one does have the county I was born in, but not the city (Navy base, actually) or hospital. It does not include the doctor’s name. It does not have my weight, as that was not a part of the original. It does contain the infamous “Certificate of Live Birth”, which, for some reason, the original also includes.

Except that you cared enough to chase down quotes with a link.

Lovely that you’ve now abandoned even the pretense of credibility.

This is rich coming from someone who blatantly misrepresents what other people say & then lies about things being debunked on this board.