So, is the Birther currently final stand that a copy of the original birth record should be released?
No, I think they want to pass around the original to who ever asks for it.
Sorry, kid.
I’ve refuted this garbage. So have other posters.
The links I’ve posted to articles by Abiola Lapite and Frank Sweet refute the racialist pseudoscience entirely.
Anyone who calls himself a “race-realist” is a crank.
You and the blogger you try to defend want to make genetic arguments without actually understanding genetics. Hence, you fail repeatedly.
Of course she is!
Never heard of Hollander v. McCain?
The Republicans snuck Obama’s BC into the vault in Hawaii and the Democrats agreed to a binding resolution making McCain a real citizen!
Quid pro quo Clarice, quid pro quo!*
CMC fnord!
*What, you didn’t know that Jodie Foster is really a Chinese-robot-from-the-future and Anthony Hopkins was desperately trying to warn us? (The money he made from Hannibal and Red Dragon was just a clever way to buy his future silence!) The whole Reagan/Hinckley/Taxi Driver* thing was just a dry run in case Joe Biden found out the TRUTH!!!11!!one
I am deeply ashamed that I actually know more about this, stuff, that has never made it into threads about the subject here.
I’d link to the crazy (Per Mod Ruling - The ONE and ONLY Obama Birth Certificate Thread 33,567 Posts and 1,788,062 Views and still going strong!) but I don’t want to be responsible for exposing you all to the inhannity.
No they haven’t. As I said previously, this was discussed a few months ago in the debates section and it was not refuted.
Perhaps you could re-post the links & I’ll take a look at them. At this stage, the most you can say is that genomics research will resolve these debates one way or another:
Aw, not this shit again…
This is absolutely a hijack; it has nothing to do with Trump or the birthers. Get lost.
No, actually I just wonder why this relatively unimportant issue causes libsters to react the way they do, up to and including instantaneous accusations of moronism on the part of the people wonder about it.
Frankly, it would look a lot less suspicious to a lot of the people who genuinely question this issue (as opposed to using it cynically for political purposes) if, instead of having third parties state that they’ve seen the original and that it does indeed exist, the original were just made public. Frankly I have to wonder about that myself, given that this has been such a constant pain in the butt to Obama and his presidency. One would think that, instead of having a nurse or the governor state that they had seen it and to take their word on its existence, the document would simply be produced. The fact that all the evidence of its existence seems to come from second-hand sources, when the original could so easily be produced, is sufficient grounds for suspicion in the minds of many who find themselves unsure about this issue.
Fair enough, as you were. Belowjob2.0 suggested I had no credibility (totally unnecessary personal attack), so I pointed out that he has made dishonest claims. I’m happy to take that up in another thread.
Genomics and genetics have nothing to do with the legalities of being a US citizen. Bring something relevant or shove the fuck off.
Because as even Bill O’Reilly, Ann Coulter or Huckabee could tell you, it is a moronic thing.
Well, it is not. Really, congress even voted to affirm that Obama was born in Hawaii.
This issue is only effective to rile the fringe elements.
And what you ask is to go against privacy laws and other statutes on not releasing documentation in order to satisfy elements of a fringe movement that will **not **be satisfied even if the document is released.
Is Barack Obama's Birth Certificate Fake? | Snopes.com Every question and stupid accusation has been met and answered. How much more proof is required? It will not matter. When someone still believes after all this proof, he is unreachable by logic and reason. Political hatred is strong. it poisons the mind. It keeps you from seeing the obvious truth.
I did above. BelowJob2.0 then made a personal attack. I said this was a bit rich from him given his history of dishonest claims. He then posted about genomics above & I responded.
And once again, there is no need to make it episode 100 of the “teach the controversy like a creationist.” The subject here is different…
Like how is that you could come with such moronic cites regarding the birth place of Obama?
Not only a great Richard Nixon, but a great John Mitchell as well.
The people who genuinely question that Obama was born in Hawaii are morons. All evidence points to the clear conclusion that Obama was born in Hawaii. There is no evidence that does not point to that conclusion. Your continued refusal to admit that, and to state, “Well, they’re just asking, you know” points to your being a moron as well. Which is not true, so I’ll assume your support of “teach the controversy” as evidence that you are a cynical political opportunist. Which I already knew, so fuck it.
because Kenyans lack the Birth Certificate gene.
I fear, at some point, the entire board will just condense into a thread singularity.
CMC fnord!
Hey SA, guess who else (AFAIK) never showed anyone his Birth Certificate?
Anyway, I’ve come to feel that you’re (Harborwolf) one of the good guys on the other side. Several of you I tussled with have become people I respect. FinnAgain, GIGObuster and crowmanyclouds are some of the others. Starving Artist
Sticks in my gizzard it does.
I would think that the president of the United States would have enough suck to have an exception made in his own case, perhaps, if necessary, even through the courts and or a legal exception granted by Hawaii’s state government. The last I heard, even Hawaii’s governor has seen it, though he’s been assured of its existence - once again - by someone who claims to have seen it. IIRC, the original had somehow been misfiled somewhere and he said he was “going to get to the bottom” of where it was and take a look at it himself. I never heard or read about it if he did, but then like I’ve said before, I’m not particularly invested in this issue in the first place so I might have missed it.
As to whether or not the original would quiet suspicion, I suppose that remains to be seen. But would it profit the president for the original to be kept in the dark simply because people won’t believe it if it’s produced? One only adds fuel to the fire and other serves at least to tamp it down somewhat.
Well, that is what Obama supporter, and Democratic governor Neil Abercrombie hoped to produce. Instead, he made things worse:
http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/neil-abercrombie-unable-to-find-barack-obama-birth-certificate/
I’ve read that Birthers have an average IQ 15% lower than sub-Saharan Africans. I’d have thought it’s be lower than that.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Again it has been examined and is real.