Donald Trump is now a birther

To be fair, the people suggesting that the original document contains something embarrassing but not disqualifying are somewhat less cookoo than the hard-core Birthers.

Now that I am awake again to read SA’s 3-4 'this is my last post’s, I am simply going to echo Harborwolf’s sentiments.

+1

One would think that, if one was unclear on the distinction between a “president” and a “king”.

I didn’t notice any difference from your usually posts. Perhaps that explains a lot. Posting while Ambiened.

Sorry, SA, but have you noticed that Truther threads get the same level of treatment? Sometimes you have to fight ignorance by shaming those who spew it. So stick your appeal to pity somewhere else.

Blah, blah, blah.

No, there aren’t. If you bothered reading this thread instead of JAQing off and pontificating you would see that the questions are inventions.

That simply is not true.

(Rest of SA’s questions that have been answered multiple times in this thread snipped)

In SA’s case, I can accept that it is not political motivations guiding his asking of the questions.

I find it interesting to gauge the ignorance level by things like how quickly the insults start and the level of vehemence applied.

Just an observation. :wink:

Re-posted, hoping for an answer.

If no one is allowed to see it, how would they know?

What if he thinks he was born in the US, but not in Hawaii? :wink:

Why is that perhaps the most important? What could possibly be on it that has any bearing on eligibility?

You guys know he’s just playing with you, right? He hits “Submit Reply” and giggles hysterically.

Unless anybody has anything more to add about Donald Trump, I think we’re just spinning our wheels here.

I’m with conservatives, I miss the old days when we knew that morally it made more sense to tax the wealthy at a higher tax rate, and that we would only give tax breaks on capital gains that had been held for a significant period of time: not rewarding speculators with lower tax rates than wage earners like we do these days. I appreciate that back then people understood the importance of education and provided schools with enough money to not only teach the basics, but also art and music. I miss the days when we built up an infrastructure that would enable future generations to move goods economically, when Unions were strong and provided a counterbalance to the power of large companies, and when we invested in National Parks, public works of art and other “non-essentials” to make our life on this planet more pleasant.

Those were the good old days, but now we have radical elements that are spitting on all that tradition. They seek to destroy the public education system and let our infrastructure fall apart. They enjoyed the benefits that their parents sacrificed for and now refuse to provide the same for their children.

<sigh> if only being “eligible” was more of a guarantee to being “elected.”

Hey Starving Artist, I’d still like to know where you heard that Abercrombie couldn’t find the certificate. You do know that that’s a lie, right?

This is simply an example of conservative misinformation. Why don’t you question things? Do you know that conservative media regularly lies to you?

Are you saying he isn’t eligible? Why?

Actually, SA has answered the “where do you think Obama was born” question in previous threads on this subject. His answer, IIRC (and please someone correct me if I’m wrong), was something akin to “I have no idea; I, and everyone else, won’t know for sure until I see the original birth certificate.”

I’ve found that there are a curious number of birthers who also go on and on about states’ rights. I’m always extremely surprised that they don’t find the right of a state to determine the validity of its own records (as enshrined in the Constitution and in other federal law) to be an important component of state sovereignty.

This shouldn’t surprise you at all. Think about it.

That’s why the CORRECT question to ask is “Where was President Obama born?” It’s a fact on the public record, and phrasing it like it’s a matter of opinion plays the birthers’ game by legitimizing the notion that it is a matter of opinion.