Don't Ban Rottweilers, Ban Their Owners

The BBQ Pit
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First of all, I got all high and mighty on everybody and announced I was taking a break from the boards. Well, I fell off the wagon, so sue me.
Ostensibly I announced my break because I was in a shitty mood. I still am, so I figure the Pit is a fine place for me at the moment.

On with the show …

You fucking irresponsible, crab-infested, mochachino-sipping, big-haired, tube-top-wearing, bunghole-smellin’, sphincter-headed waste of skin! If you own a dog which is the size of a horse, and has the biting power of your average North American crocodile - learn how to control the fucking beast before you bring it out in public!!

And if you’re having a little trouble, and your pet doesn’t respond they way he should, upsetting other people and pets, have the common fucking decency to apologize and express maybe, oh, a smidgen of concern, you piece of corn encrusted shit!!

Why do I mention this? Oh no reason.

No wait. It was just this morning. I’m walking to Starbucks with my dog to get me a cuppa Joe. As I near the establishment, I see the two aforementioned asspockets sitting at an outside table. I do not, however, notice the 8 foot tall, 500 lb rottweiler sitting at their feet, until I clear the bushes. This fucking growling, slime-dripping, murderous beast lunges at me and my dog. I do what any normal human being would do - I screamed like a little girl and peed my pants.

No, actually I yelled “No!”, and pulled my dog away. What does crappaccino-head dog owner do? Grabs onto it’s leash and proceeds to get dragged down the sidewalk by this behemoth as my life flashes before my eyes. But it was her reaction to the whole thing that cheesed my penis.

She was laughing. Laughing!!

This fucking dog could have swallowed my Daisy-Bob whole, and that only would have slowed it down enough to only get one of my legs down its gullet.

Her idiot friend starts laughing too, before she strolls over and helps her friend tackle this snarling monster. By this time I’m straddling a bush and I practically have Daisy hanging from her leash, I’m so desperate to pull her back.

By the time I get to a safe distance I look over at these two bimbettes who are having the laugh of a lifetime.

I snapped. I screamed at them, “You think that’s funny, you fucking idiots? If you can’t control your dog, leave it the fuck home. You cocksuckers!”

Then I remembered they had a killer rottweiler with them so I just went to 7-11 for coffee.

I’m telling you it’s a good thing I don’t carry a gun or there would have been a major bloodbath in Oakland this morning.

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Seen Wonderboys??

Great scene in there about an uncontrollable dog. . .

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And why, pray-tell, would I want to re-live this particular slice of hell?

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because tobey mcguire actually shoots the dog.

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Ah … well then … point well taken.

I didn’t want to really shoot this dog. Well, maybe wing it. It was the doorknobs with legs sitting at the table I wanted to cap.

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Ahhhhhh, gotcha (I do love dogs), movie’s worth seeing never the less.

On a more serious note, you have to wonder about the homelife if the woman if her dog is that aggressive…

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Jack: Thank you, thank you, thank you for not making this yet another thread about why dogs should be banned, put down, sedated in public, etc.

Rotties are big dogs. If they don’t get obedience training they can be difficult, if not impossible in some cases, to control.

The same can be said for nearly every other dog there is.

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The stupidity of some people. Dogs, especially potentially dangerous ones, are an enormous responsiblity. And she is treating it like a joke. I’m sure she will be laughing about her dog’s visious behavoir until it bites someone and she is faced with a huge lawsuit. Or, worse yet, it kills a kid and criminal charges are brought against her.

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Dr. Lao, ironic that you mention that. Just last week a little boy in some town north of here got mauled by three rottweiler. Mauled horribly. I remember the quote form the newspaper … the doctor said “this is the worst I’ve ever seen anybody who didn’t die from a mauling.”

And there was that woman who just got killed by those Mastiffs in San Francisco just a few months ago.

Personally, I have nothing against rottweilers or mastiffs. They are animals. I’d say they are pre-disposed toward viviousness, but I do blame people for not controlling that. I know that I would never own a dog like that (just because that’s not what I want in a dog - I like my Daisy, she keeps my feet warm when I sleep).

But all of that is completely beside the point for one reason and one reason only …

Nobody rated my rant. What am I chopped liver? Everybody gets their rants rated. This is like the second OP I’ve ever put in the PIT.

I WANT MY RANT RATED, GOD-DAMN-IT!!

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Five-point deduction for begging.

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WTF kind of white trash town do you live in where assault dogs are legal? :eek:

Those mutts are actually banned in most places because they’re so dangerous. Here in my hometown, rotties and pit bulls MUST wear muzzles when they’re not chained up in their own yards.

Yeah, I know the drill–most of those dogs are so gentle, they’d make Mister Rogers look like Josef Stalin. But do you really wanna risk getting sued for millions and facing criminal charges just because your rottie snapped and killed someone’s child?

Walking a regular dog is like carrying a loaded pistol. Completely safe if you’re observing all the safety rules. Walking a rottie/pit bull/whatever is like carrying a fully loaded, full-auto AK-47 with a missing safety catch and a hair trigger. You have to be even MORE careful.

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They are perfectly legal here in LA.

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Ok, my 0.02$'s worth.

I train dogs.

I train service and SAR dogs. I have also trained so-called guard dogs, mostly for police work.

A well trained Schutzhund dog is a weapon. I know, I own one. She’s the most wonderful, calm, sweet dog. Kids hang off her neck and she won’t budge. But if I tell her to go for the kill, she goes for the kill. She’s one of the top Schutzhund competitors in the region.

But she is a highly trained dog, and because of it, I would never be able to place her in a family (if I wanted to, which I don’t). Some dogs are naturally agressive, and their owners simply make it worse. The case you describe reminds me of that.

I honestly wish people needed a permit to own a dog and that obedience training was a necessity. Along with refresher courses, too. Sure, some cities now outlaw some breeds - but frankly, the worst cases of bites I’ve seen in my career came from Golden Retrievers… so…

Anyway, all this to say that the owners are to blame. All dogs with a protection breed background (this includes sheepdogs and cattle dogs) can show aggressive or protective behavior. They need training. So do their owners.

Speaking of dogs, I better go walk mine.

:smiley: Elly & the dawgs

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Of all the adjectives one might attribute to Oakland, California, I would say that “white trash” would be waaaaaay down on the list.

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I’m in an odd position here- I own a Rottie, who is as sweet as can be. He is never allowed to run free without me around (we live in the country) and he’s never shown any aggression to anyone. If it makes you feel any better, if it were my dog that lunged at you and your pup like that, he would have been seriously reprimanded. (I’ll leave it at that)

Anyway, my neighbors (kitty corner, down the road apiece) have a nasty, drooling, growling, snarling Rottie and a bunch of other barking annoyances. Apparently in addition to the non-stop nusince barking that the Rottie has been doing for about a year now, he dug a hole and got out of his fenced yard, ran across the street, and went after the neighbor and her little son.

They are going to court tomorrow so that the judge can decide if this dog is a threat to the public and have it put down. (This is a small town- it’s basically a done deal). The neighbors asked us to come and testify to the dogs (multiple) constant barking and bad behavior, and I believe the woman will have to get rid of all of them if enough people complain. (The will only put down the vicious one, the others will go up for adoption.)

My problem is that much as I want to go and say that these dogs drive me batshit (and they do), I don’t want to be seen by this woman (a total weirdo) as responsible for having a part in her dog being put down. I’m not afraid for me, but what about my dogs? She could easily get into my yard and throw some poisoned meat over the fence for them to eat or some other such retribution. To me, the possible injury/death to my dogs is not worth getting rid of the annoying dogs. (bearing in mind that my testimony will have no bearing on the outcome of the vicious dog charge- I did not witness the alleged attack)

That’s the dillemma- Prior to realizing that this hearing would likely result in the dog being destroyed, I was all for it. “Yeah- I’ll be there with bells on! Those barking dogs drive me nuts!”, but now I’m not so sure it’s a good idea. The people gave me the impression that the case is all but done, but want neighborhood support anyway so that not only will the vicious dog be put down, but the others will be carted away, too.

What would you do?

Zette

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If it were me, I’d … RATE MY RANT!!!

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4 normally, but the way you handled the notches, I give you an 8.

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Additional five-point deduction for begging. If it comes to a third offense, we’ll have to send you up the river for 25-to-life.

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Zette
Do you find the dogs dangerous, or merely annoying? I’m really not asking this to be obtuse, but if you believe that the dog is potentially dangerous, I would go to court. If you simply find them annoying then I would tell the neighbor that asked you to go to court exactly that: “I’m sorry Jane but I don’t think the dog is a threat, and despite the the fact that I would like them to get their dogs to shut the fuck up, I really think that putting it down is just going too far.”

Having said that, I find that far too many owners of these potentally letal weapons are extraordinarily irresponsible. Not that other dog owners can’t be idiots when it comes to their pets, but rarely have I heard of the “fatal mauling by a Maltese”.

As for the rant:
I give an 9.7

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Awwww. Malteses couldn’t maul if they tried. :slight_smile: Well okay I’m sure a particularly mean one could be brutal, but the couple I’ve known have been little angels.

Sorry about that, Jack Batty, you deserve better. What kind of dog is your Daisy?