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301

Touching on some brand new subject matter (and starting fresh with 0 points):

Business/Finance:

Name three US stock exchanges (1 pt each)

What is the difference between a Traditional and a Roth IRA? (2 pts)

Save 15% or more in 15 minutes by calling… (1 pt)

What rich man owns much of the company just referred to (or name his company)? (3 pts)

Name three top investment banks (2 pts each)

Cars etc.:

What is BMW’s best selling car model in the US (1 pt)

What do the company’s initials stand for (1 for the English, +2 for the German)

What year (plus or minus one) did the Mazda Miata come out in the US? (3 pts)

Which motorcycle company has a patent on the distinctive sound of its engines (2 pts)?

What is the name of that engine design? (3 pts)

Misc:

In golf, what is an albatross? (2 pts)

Why can’t I get Vernors in the Northeast (0 I just really want to know >.< )

302

Current running total: =16

Throwing some hooks to see what will catch:

  1. Considering the Hitchhiker Guide To The Galaxy (HHGTTG)
    1.1: How many books are in the trilogy? (1)
    1.2 Name them! (+2 for full answer, 0 for significant partial)
    1.3 What is the author’s name? (1)
    1.4 What is his middle name? (2)

  2. Some trick questions, for 1 point each. Most (if not all) are well-known, so please note those you know, and those will not be counted. To be fair, you should answer quickly (not thinking too long on each question).
    2.1 Do they have a 4th of July in England?
    2.2 Some months have 31 days. How many have 28?
    2.3 You are participating in a race. You overtake the second person. In what position do you finish?
    2.4 Is it legal for a man in California to marry his widow’s sister? Why?
    2.5 Divide 30 by 1/2 and add 10. What is the answer?
    2.6 If there are three apples and you take away two, how many do you have?
    2.7 A clerk in the butcher shop is 5’ 10" tall. What does he weight?
    2.8 What was the President’s name in 1960?

  3. Science and Technology *seems to be one of your fortes)
    3.1 Which planet is considered Earth’s ‘sister’ planet? (1)
    3.2 Which constellation has the star Sirius in it? (2)
    3.3 Rigel and Betelgeuse are stars of what constellation? (2)
    3.4 Triton is a moon of which planet? (1)
    3.5 Which of these is not a layer of the Sun: Convective zone, Chromosphere, Mantle, Photosphere? (2)
    3.6 What is the hottest planet in the solar system? (1)
    3.7 What is the farthest planet that can be seen without a telescope? (2)
    3.8 When did the spacecraft Ulysses reach Jupiter? (1)
    3.9 Which of the four great Galilean moons around Jupiter is the closest to the planet? (3)
    3.10 Which moon of Saturn was almost shattered by the object that produced the Herschel Crater on its surface? (4 – I’m feeling lucky)

303

Star Wars:

  1. What did Luke used to bullseye in his T-16 back home? (2)
  2. What weren’t they much bigger than? (2)
  3. What will freeze before Han reaches the first marker? (2)
  4. Where will Han see the person who tells him this? (2)
  5. To what alien race does Admiral Ackbar belong? (3)
  6. What would you get if you ordered this in a restaurant? (2)
  7. Why did the prequels suck so much? (12 million)
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[QUOTE=Quint]
Just testing the waters here…

It’s not easy being (blank). (1)

Name the hockey legend who wore number 9 for the Detroit Red Wings. (2)

You are taking a picture with an ISO of 400, an f-stop of 5.6, and a shutter speed of 1/125. At the last minute you switch to ISO 200 with a shutter speed of 1/125. What is your f-stop? (3)
[/QUOTE]

  1. Green. Its not easy having a hand always shoved up your muppet ass either.

  2. Steve Yzerman? (gulp I get this wrong, and my fellow detroiters will have me flogged).

  3. Well, with a slower film speed, you need to open your aperture up more to let in more light, so the lower the f-stop number, the wider it’s open. The bummer is, I can’t remember off the top of my head what the next lowest f-stop is! something in the 3s? If I’m right on the principle… maybe give yourself half-credit?

(good questions! Even tho that sports one was a gamble!)

305

[QUOTE=sturmhauke]
3 point questions:

  1. What are Pantone colors?
  2. What is halftone printing?
  3. What is offset printing?
  4. What is dot pitch?
  5. How many picas to an inch?
  6. What is a bleed?
  7. What is kerning?
    [/QUOTE]

We have a smart player here. :wink:

  1. Pantone colors are predetermined spot ink colors developed as a standard color system for designers and printers alike by the Pantone Company. And the Pantone books are pretty.

  2. This is the method of printing an ink in lighter tones by introducing a halftone pattern (that is, it’s broken up into barely visible dots). The resolution of the screen is determined by it’s line screen gauge (that is, 150 lpi = 150 dots in an inch). You can make the the ink appear lighter or darker (but never darker than the ink printed at 100%) but adjusting the size of the individual dots. This is all controlled by computers now-a-days tho.

  3. It’s the method of printing multiple colors usually in one run on a multicolor press, that uses multiple plates or blankets to transfer the ink to the medium of choice. Typically sheet-fed paper… but the beauty of offset is the ability to print on a wide variety of surfaces and stock. You also get much higher quality relative to other types of printing such as High speed Web.

  4. Y’know… my prepress days were long ago, but is this the same thing as dot gain? If so, it’s when the dots in a halftone screen grow (or reduce) depending on how thick the ink is being laid. This effects the overall richness of the printed piece, and if poorly maintained can cause a lot of finely detailed shadows to fill in.

  6. Industry standard says to run your inks and images that are supposed to meet the trim beyond said trim by at least 1/8th of an inch.

  7. Kerning is adjusting the letterspace between individual letters.

BOOJAH!

306

Oooh!

What are “blues” (when they’re not musical)? What do you do with them? Why don’t you see them much anymore? (+3) (Bonus: What do they smell like?)

Define “stet”. (+1)

Gotta go to work – more later –

307

[QUOTE=iwakura43]
Touching on some brand new subject matter (and starting fresh with 0 points):

Business/Finance:

Name three US stock exchanges (1 pt each)

What is the difference between a Traditional and a Roth IRA? (2 pts)

Save 15% or more in 15 minutes by calling… (1 pt)

What rich man owns much of the company just referred to (or name his company)? (3 pts)

Name three top investment banks (2 pts each)

Cars etc.:

What is BMW’s best selling car model in the US (1 pt)

What do the company’s initials stand for (1 for the English, +2 for the German)

What year (plus or minus one) did the Mazda Miata come out in the US? (3 pts)

Which motorcycle company has a patent on the distinctive sound of its engines (2 pts)?

What is the name of that engine design? (3 pts)

Misc:

In golf, what is an albatross? (2 pts)

Why can’t I get Vernors in the Northeast (0 I just really want to know >.< )
[/QUOTE]

  1. NYSE. That’s it :frowning:

  2. Traditional = Pay taxes on the backend. Roth = Pay taxes on the front end?

  3. Some lameass mortgage lender? I have a feeling I’m missing something here.

  4. Yup, definitely missing something. I’ll just guess Rock Financial?

  5. Gawd. I dunno… Prudential? Umm… yeh.

CARS:

  1. 5 Series?

  2. I feel silly as I’ve done a lot of print work for BMW, and I have no idea.

  3. 1991?

  4. Harley Davidson

  5. GAH!

MISC:

  1. 3 under par???

  2. Because us Michiganders can only make so much and it is a gold nectar that should be rationed so carefully as to not squander its supply or cheapen it’s value.

edit: And cuz we’re snobby about our gingerale.

308

Oof, I took a bit of a battering on this one.

[QUOTE=cmyk]

  1. NYSE. That’s it :frowning: Also looking for the NASDAQ and the AMEX (American Stock Exchange)… +1 - 2 = (-1)

  2. Traditional = Pay taxes on the backend. Roth = Pay taxes on the front end? Yup (+2)

  3. Some lameass mortgage lender? I have a feeling I’m missing something here. I was looking for GEICO but probably didn’t offer enough info (-1)

  4. Yup, definitely missing something. I’ll just guess Rock Financial? GEICO ==> Warren Buffett / Berkshire Hathaway. (-3) unless you’d have gotten that from GEICO?

  5. Gawd. I dunno… Prudential? Umm… yeh. Merril Lynch, Morgan Stanley, and Bear Stearns (edit: Goldman Sachs) come first to my mind (-6)

CARS:

  1. 5 Series? Nope, 3 series is the bread and butter (-1)

  2. I feel silly as I’ve done a lot of print work for BMW, and I have no idea. Bavarian Motor Works / Bayerische Motoren Werke (-3)

  3. 1991? 1989 but it was a 1990 model so I’ll cheat and say it’s close enough (+3)

  4. Harley Davidson (+2)

  5. GAH! It’s the V-Twin engine (-3)

MISC:

  1. 3 under par??? Good guess (+2)

  2. Because us Michiganders can only make so much and it is a gold nectar that should be rationed so carefully as to not squander its supply or cheapen it’s value.

edit: And cuz we’re snobby about our gingerale.
[/QUOTE]

That puts me at -9

This is a good game :cool: nevertheless

309

[QUOTE=Puzzler]
Current running total: =16

Throwing some hooks to see what will catch:

  1. Considering the Hitchhiker Guide To The Galaxy (HHGTTG)
    1.1: How many books are in the trilogy? (1)
    1.2 Name them! (+2 for full answer, 0 for significant partial)
    1.3 What is the author’s name? (1)
    1.4 What is his middle name? (2)

  2. Some trick questions, for 1 point each. Most (if not all) are well-known, so please note those you know, and those will not be counted. To be fair, you should answer quickly (not thinking too long on each question).
    2.1 Do they have a 4th of July in England?
    2.2 Some months have 31 days. How many have 28?
    2.3 You are participating in a race. You overtake the second person. In what position do you finish?
    2.4 Is it legal for a man in California to marry his widow’s sister? Why?
    2.5 Divide 30 by 1/2 and add 10. What is the answer?
    2.6 If there are three apples and you take away two, how many do you have?
    2.7 A clerk in the butcher shop is 5’ 10" tall. What does he weight?
    2.8 What was the President’s name in 1960?

  3. Science and Technology *seems to be one of your fortes)
    3.1 Which planet is considered Earth’s ‘sister’ planet? (1)
    3.2 Which constellation has the star Sirius in it? (2)
    3.3 Rigel and Betelgeuse are stars of what constellation? (2)
    3.4 Triton is a moon of which planet? (1)
    3.5 Which of these is not a layer of the Sun: Convective zone, Chromosphere, Mantle, Photosphere? (2)
    3.6 What is the hottest planet in the solar system? (1)
    3.7 What is the farthest planet that can be seen without a telescope? (2)
    3.8 When did the spacecraft Ulysses reach Jupiter? (1)
    3.9 Which of the four great Galilean moons around Jupiter is the closest to the planet? (3)
    3.10 Which moon of Saturn was almost shattered by the object that produced the Herschel Crater on its surface? (4 – I’m feeling lucky)
    [/QUOTE]

HHGTTG:
1.1) I think it’s 5.
1.2) HHTTG, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, Shit.
1.3) Douglas Adams
1.4) Ill guess Richard… but this might be some DA related joke I’m not in on!

2.1) Of course, but it’s not a holiday.
2.2) All of em.
2.3) Second to last? Hmm. I can’t see the logic here to figure out the conundrum!
2.4) No Idea.
2.5) Yeh… I see… you think you you’re cutting 30 in half down to 15, but what you really need to do is divide it by .5 (not 2)… and the result is 60. Adding 10 gives you 70… Clever!
2.6) You have 2… those are the ones you took.
2.7) I’m guessing this is a play on words, but I don’t know it.
2.8) George W. Bush.

That was fun!

SCIENCE & TECH:
3.1) Mars.
3.2) Canus Major?
3.3) Orion
3.4) Neptune? Hmm. I think.
3.5) Mantle
3.6) Mercury
3.7) Saturn
3.8) Damn… don’t know that one.
3.9) Io? but i’m not SURE. I’m guessing cuz it’s the most geologically active, so that got to be do to tidal forces via proximity to Jupiter.
3.10) Titan? (gulp… I hope you gambled right!!!)

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[QUOTE=emilyforce]
Oooh!

What are “blues” (when they’re not musical)? What do you do with them? Why don’t you see them much anymore? (+3) (Bonus: What do they smell like?)

Define “stet”. (+1)

Gotta go to work – more later –
[/QUOTE]

  1. So sorry emilyforce! I have NO idea… but await, with curiosity, the answer.

  2. Stet is a proofreading team (and mark) that means to ignore that particular (and most likely mistaken) markup and leave it be.

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[QUOTE=cmyk]

  1. Green. Its not easy having a hand always shoved up your muppet ass either.

  2. Steve Yzerman? (gulp I get this wrong, and my fellow detroiters will have me flogged).

  3. Well, with a slower film speed, you need to open your aperture up more to let in more light, so the lower the f-stop number, the wider it’s open. The bummer is, I can’t remember off the top of my head what the next lowest f-stop is! something in the 3s? If I’m right on the principle… maybe give yourself half-credit?

(good questions! Even tho that sports one was a gamble!)
[/QUOTE]

  1. yep
    2)Blast! I did take a bit of a gamble. Yzerman was 19, number 9 was Gordie Howe. I can see there being some confusion to a non sporting type when the two legends of hockey from their town have such similar numbers. :smack:
  2. correct answer is f4. You were on the right track and you did show your work, so I’ll give myself half points.

Total .5

Looks like strurmhauke should run away with this thing… I coulda had a guess at one of those questions but otherwise that was all Greek to me.

312

[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting&cmyk]

  1. A is to B as . . .: Cleanliness is next to Godliness as Canada is next to . . . ? The greatest nation in the world… America? (it’s either that or, a world of cold) Correctamundo! on both possible responses; Canada is clean and we, well, we are gods! +2.

  2. The rest of the words escape me right now, but in the Negro spiritual Michael, Row the Boat Ashore, this line refers to what (don’t be too slavish about getting this one if you’re not sure)? Going of a possible imbedded hint: The Slave Trade? Close, very close. Negro spirituals and many aspects of Negro dialect developed in part so that slaves could communicate in a way Massa would not understand. This line was a coded song in the night so that boats helping slaves escape through the Underground Railroad would know where to dock and pick up runaways. (3), but I’ll give you +2 for being so astute (1 off because you missed the “escape” clue).

  3. Old-fashioned non-tab cans can be punched open using implements sometimes referred to as _________ keys? Bottle Keys? Wrong, it’s church key, another name for a bottle or can opener. -3.

  4. Of les cartes, les clés or les portes, which one is French for the keys? les clés? Correct, my friend. +1.

  5. My _____ Heaven, is a 1990 film featuring Steve Martin, Rick Moranis and Joan Cusack? Blue! Correct again. +2.

  6. Do bats sleep while flying, upside down or on their sides with teddy bears? Upside down. You gotta wonder how their guano doesn’t run down their fur. Correct again, my friend. +1.

  7. What do Al Sharpton and Senator Strom Thurmond have in common? Conservatives? Wrong. Al Sharpton, conservative? Whattayu, livin’ in a guano-covered cave of bats? Sharpton is an African American activist in civil rights and gay issues, repeat Democratic presidential candidate and local New York talk show host. Thurmond, who died a fossil in 2003 at 100, was a former presidential candidate, and Democratic senator from South Carolina, who, as a rabid segragationist, became a Republican in 1964, due to the Civil Rights Act. It was revealed in 2003, after his death, that he had been sneaking into the woodpile, or, to put it less salaciously, jumping the bones of his black maid, Carrie Butler, and had a mixed race daughter. But, the Sharpton connection is that in early 2007, it was revealed that ancestors of Thurmond had owned ancestors of Sharpton in slavery days. -2.
    [/QUOTE]
    I picked up 3: current score is -6.5.

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[QUOTE=fachverwirrt]
Star Wars:

  1. What did Luke used to bullseye in his T-16 back home? (2)
  2. What weren’t they much bigger than? (2)
  3. What will freeze before Han reaches the first marker? (2)
  4. Where will Han see the person who tells him this? (2)
  5. To what alien race does Admiral Ackbar belong? (3)
  6. What would you get if you ordered this in a restaurant? (2)
  7. Why did the prequels suck so much? (12 million)
    [/QUOTE]

Ahhh… more SW.

  1. Whomp rats.
  2. fuck.
  3. those Lama looking things whose name escapes me that Han slices open (in his only time ever using a lightsaber) to keep Luke warm in ESB?
  4. Yup. Definitely got #3 wrong.
  5. GAH!
  6. Squid?
  7. Between you and me? I think Lucas ran out of toilet paper in 1997 and the only thing he had lying around were his prequel outlines. From then on, the dominoes started falling.
314

[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting]
Wrong. Al Sharpton, conservative? Whattayu, livin’ in a guano-covered cave of bats?
[/QUOTE]

Why yes! Yes I am! :smiley:

315

[QUOTE=cmyk]
Ahhh… more SW.

  1. Whomp rats.
  2. fuck.
  3. those Lama looking things whose name escapes me that Han slices open (in his only time ever using a lightsaber) to keep Luke warm in ESB?
  4. Yup. Definitely got #3 wrong.
  5. GAH!
  6. Squid?
  7. Between you and me? I think Lucas ran out of toilet paper in 1997 and the only thing he had lying around were his prequel outlines. From then on, the dominoes started falling.
    [/QUOTE]
  1. Correct. (+2)
  2. Two meters. Or, the exhaust hole they’re aiming for. (-2)
  3. Half-credit for this. They’re called Ton-Tons (I’m not sure about that spelling). (+1)
  4. Hell. (-2)
  5. Mon Calamari. (-3)
  6. Correct. (+2)
  7. Good answer. (+12,000,000)

My fake score: 11,999,994. My real score: -6

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[QUOTE=cmyk]
HHGTTG:
1.1) I think it’s 5.
[/quote]

Right! (+1)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
1.2) HHTTG, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, Shit.
[/quote]

Life, the Universe, and Everything; So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish; Mostly Harmless (-2)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
1.3) Douglas Adams
[/quote]

True (+1)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
1.4) Ill guess Richard… but this might be some DA related joke I’m not in on!
[/quote]

Noël. Hence the common abbreviation by his fans: DNA (-2)

Sub-total: -2 (not a major DNA fan. Check)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
2.1) Of course, but it’s not a holiday.
[/quote]

Yup. (+1)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
2.2) All of em.
[/quote]

Yessss. (+1)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
2.3) Second to last? Hmm. I can’t see the logic here to figure out the conundrum!
[/quote]

Nah. You overtook the second, so now you are the second. Common mistake: Now you are first. (-1)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
2.4) No Idea.
[/quote]

It’s illegal. Dead man cannot marry anyone (his widow should have been a clue). (-1)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
2.5) Yeh… I see… you think you you’re cutting 30 in half down to 15, but what you really need to do is divide it by .5 (not 2)… and the result is 60. Adding 10 gives you 70… Clever!
[/quote]

Right! (+1)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
2.6) You have 2… those are the ones you took.
[/quote]

Indeed. (+1)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
2.7) I’m guessing this is a play on words, but I don’t know it.
[/quote]

He works at the butcher shop, so he weights…meat. (-1)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
2.8) George W. Bush.
[/quote]

Yesseri-bob. (+1)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
That was fun!
[/quote]

:slight_smile:
Sub-total: (5-3)*1 = +2 (compensated for the DNA one)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
SCIENCE & TECH:
3.1) Mars.
[/quote]

Actually, it’s Venus: Venus is very similar to Earth in size and mass. (-1)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
3.2) Canus Major?
[/quote]

Canis Major. (+2)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
3.3) Orion
[/quote]

Yes. (+2)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
3.4) Neptune? Hmm. I think.
[/quote]

You are correct. (+1)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
3.5) Mantle
[/quote]

Yes. The mantle is a part of the Earth, not the Sun. (+2)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
3.6) Mercury
[/quote]

A common mistake. Actually it’s Venus. (-1)
[/COLOR]Followup: Why is it so? (1 point)[/color]

[QUOTE=cmyk]
3.7) Saturn
[/quote]

Uranus. (-2)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
3.8) Damn… don’t know that one.
[/quote]

  1. (-1)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
3.9) Io? but i’m not SURE. I’m guessing cuz it’s the most geologically active, so that got to be do to tidal forces via proximity to Jupiter.
[/quote]

True. (+3)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
3.10) Titan? (gulp… I hope you gambled right!!!)
[/QUOTE]

Sob No… (-4)
It’s Mimas. Mimas is the smallest of Saturn’s moons and is heavily cratered due to frequent impacts throughout history. The Herschel Crater, which is named after the astronomer William Herschel, is all that remains of the object that almost shattered the small moon and makes it look like <grasp yourself…> the Death Star from Star Wars Gasp!.
Sub-total: +1
Total this round: +1 (pfeww)

Running total: +17

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[QUOTE=cmyk]

  1. So sorry emilyforce! I have NO idea… but await, with curiosity, the answer.

  2. Stet is a **proofreading team ** (and mark) that means to ignore that particular (and most likely mistaken) markup and leave it be.
    [/QUOTE]
    So it done in teams now? No wander the resulting product is such a mish-mash.

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Dangit! I was so sure you’d know… maybe you call them something else? {sigh}

Blueline proofs, “blues” for short. Blues are the last proofs of your pages before they go to press, so called because back in the day they were made directly from the negatives on photo-sensitive paper that turns blue, for one last check before the actual printing plates are made. Just like blueprints. Well, I guess they are blue-prints. I should say “were,” since I haven’t seen any in about five years now; what with everyone going all digital and having color printers and whatnot, they’re obsolete. And what you do with them is try very hard not to see anything on them that you should have edited already, because it’s bloody expensive to fix at that stage. They smell like an unholy union between nail-polish remover and the formaldehyde your least-favorite science teacher used on specimens. (Technically blues paper used off-gasses acetaldehyde and benzaldehyde, supposedly at levels too low to poison you, but it’s nasty.)

-3 for me. :frowning: <– lookit, the sad little smilie is BLUE!

Phew! +1. I had +4 before, so this makes… *the math! it burns! *+2.

And 5-4-Fighting, I’m not picking you for my team. :stuck_out_tongue:

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What is the name of the Memphis estate in which Elvis Presley resided? (difficulty: 1)

What 1986 Paul Simon album contains the song “You Can Call Me Al”? (difficulty: 2)

What Chicago cemetery did poet Carl Sandberg write about in 1916? (difficulty: 3)

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[QUOTE=cmyk]
We have a smart player here. :wink:

  1. Pantone colors are predetermined spot ink colors developed as a standard color system for designers and printers alike by the Pantone Company. And the Pantone books are pretty.

  2. This is the method of printing an ink in lighter tones by introducing a halftone pattern (that is, it’s broken up into barely visible dots). The resolution of the screen is determined by it’s line screen gauge (that is, 150 lpi = 150 dots in an inch). You can make the the ink appear lighter or darker (but never darker than the ink printed at 100%) but adjusting the size of the individual dots. This is all controlled by computers now-a-days tho.

  3. It’s the method of printing multiple colors usually in one run on a multicolor press, that uses multiple plates or blankets to transfer the ink to the medium of choice. Typically sheet-fed paper… but the beauty of offset is the ability to print on a wide variety of surfaces and stock. You also get much higher quality relative to other types of printing such as High speed Web.

  4. Y’know… my prepress days were long ago, but is this the same thing as dot gain? If so, it’s when the dots in a halftone screen grow (or reduce) depending on how thick the ink is being laid. This effects the overall richness of the printed piece, and if poorly maintained can cause a lot of finely detailed shadows to fill in.

  6. Industry standard says to run your inks and images that are supposed to meet the trim beyond said trim by at least 1/8th of an inch.

  7. Kerning is adjusting the letterspace between individual letters.

BOOJAH!
[/QUOTE]

  1. Correct! +3
  2. Yes! +3
  3. Again! +3
  4. Oh no! Actually, dot pitch is a term more commonly used with monitors. It’s the distance between dots (pixels on a monitor). -3
  5. Sweet! +3
  6. Whee! +3
  7. Excellent! +3

That leaves me with 15 points. Be back with more questions later.