I think you may be suffering from some confirmation bias here. You’re correct that peekercpa hasn’t been as active over the past day or so, but I think that’s true of most posters (including myself). Blaster Master, for example, has been totally silent for at least the last day and a half or so. Seems pretty much like a null tell to me.
Sorry guys, just wanna post really quick that I’m sorry about not being around yesterday, and won’t be around today or probably through most of the weekend. I’m in the process of moving so, it’s taking up most of my time. Assuming I make it through the Night, I’ll catch up and post my thoughts on what I’ve missed Tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Thing Fish]
You have made many good points in your last two posts. My main reasons for voting for you were because of what I thought was you misrepresenting anyrose’s comments about you, and what I thought was you giving yourself an out because of your vote. You have explained yourself better in your last long post than in many of your previous posts.
I hope I have time to read through the thread, AGAIN, to see if I should place my vote elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Thing Fish]
You know if I was a OMGUS voter I would have left it on you after a few of your posts. Sadly you drew the most attention to yourself in the wrong portion of the game. Day 1. My vote for you had everything to do with your smudge of twickster I didn’t like that in the game that early anyway.
As it stands now you still seem to have the most reason to vote for but I’m going with my gut a bit on day 1 and not just the slipups. As for your accusations toward me well that’s to be expected but my vote was placed only after I said back in post 148 (following your twickster smudge in post 142) and to further it, I was the initial one who said about the smudge where you seem to be implying I was following when in fact I was headed to the same conclusion as others independently.
Much as my unvote of you I knew would raise some eyebrows, if I was trying to distance myself I would not have removed my vote. I was actually hoping we could swing the vote somewhere else before you got lynched. And still do want that, because I don’t feel you are in fact a scum you merely made a mistake which you acknowledged.
I wouldn’t vote against anyrose for metagame reasons. NAF1138 has volunteered to fill her spot, so her quitting shouldn’t be too much of a consideration.
Yeah it should be combined with her “convinced” post back in post 235. Sadly in my own experience scum tend to be subbed out more than townies. That’s just based on a few games mind you but it’s a trend I noticed. So unfair perhaps but I have less confidence in a Thing Fish vote than I do an anyrose vote at this moment in time.
I only volunteered to fill it if no one else wants it.
I am not about to let the spot go empty. I haven’t heard one way or the other yet.
Can we please have a vote count?
Any chance for us to get some more people who voted for Thing Fish to comment on his latest few posts?
Ok, Unkempt One, as requested, this is some of what I was talking about:
Thing Fish clarifies that his/her vote is pseudo-random. This is clearly not a serious vote.
This is after Thing Fish points out that the vote is not serious. I don’t think that defensiveness is a scumtell, but this seems to be a super-OMGUS w absolutely no reasoning.
I totally agree with this, and don’t understand how this has been used against him/her.
I’m not convinced one way or the other that either player is scum or Town, but I think the reasons presented for voting Thing Fish have been fairly bogus. I’m definitely going to be inclined to look at some motivations on that if Thing Fish comes up Town. But if he’s scum, I will totally congratulate you Fish voters on your keen scumdar.
On the BlaM subject: I think he is just being BlaM. In the past two games, I’ve gotten scummy vibes from him both times, and he was actually Town (I was suspicious in Recruitment before he ever got recruited). I’m not saying this means he’s Town, but that his love of strategizing is not scummy in and of itself. We’ll just want to watch his advice etc for signs that we’re being gently nudged in a scummy direction.
What’s the sub rate on Millers? 
I’d like to see that as well. Admittedly I never felt enough suspicion towards him to vote for him in the first place, but it seems to me that he’s done a good job trying to respond to the points that have been made against him.
Confirming my role.
Give me a chance to at least catch up on reading before you guys throw votes my way, please? 
Ok, I see the your point about Thing Fish defending himself against anyrose. I don’t think that it means he isn’t scum, but his actions may not be as scummy as I originally read them to be.
I have read back through the last several pages, and something that you said in your exchange with anyrose struck a chord. From post #310:
I have to say that I agree with what you have said. I know that anyrose was frustrated with how the game was progressing at that point, but for some reason she didn’t really seem to want to help search for scum. Even is she is town, at this point it doesn’t seem like any of her contributions have really helped our cause. So, with that said…
Unvote Thing Fish
Vote anyrose
Sigh. I like the way Thing Fish defended himself. I really don’t know what to do at this point; I don’t want to lynch town but I don’t want to miss lynching scum because of good defense. Also, if we lynch and Thing Fish is town we still learn a lot by looking at the discussion - who knew stuff and who didn’t? And he’s the only poster who generated a lot of discussion besides anyrose and she’s subbed out.
So I’m keeping my vote on Thing Fish for that reason - I am now not at all sure that he’s scum but I think we’ll learn a lot from lynching him anyway.
Not edited to add - I feel somewhat confident that she didn’t contribute because she was overwhelmed and didn’t know how. I don’t mean to say I won’t be watching her sub closely, but I feel all her actions are explainable by what she said - she was new, didn’t expect Doper Mafia games to be hardcore, etc.
See this is why I’m not voting for Anyrose if she was scum she had what she wanted which is a Thing lynch. Why would she be frustrated? I mean going to blaster’s motivation theory; the only reason to be frustrated is that things aren’t going to way you want if she is scum Thing getting lynched is what she wants so she wouldn’t be frustrated unless she thinks she made a slip and she’s going to get lynched next but there was hardly any momentum towards lynching her so I don’t see that as the obvious conclusions, if she is town then Thing getting lynched is universally good due to the information gained and she is frustrated because no one believes her. The lack of belief seems to be a simpler solution then seeing a couple of people looking her way as a guaranteed lynch.
As for the second reason well she getting replaced now and NAF knows what he is doing so I don’t think that worrying about her replacement not wanting to search for scum is a valid thought.
I’m new at looking at motivation let me know what your seeing.
Good point here. Jumping out in this kind of situation is neutral, at best. Thing Fish, if it turns out we are wrong, I am sorry, but I still feel you’re the best candidate on day one. Once we have our answers and we go into tonight, I’ll have other suspicious to pursue.
At this point in the game, we don’t have too much to go by to figure out who is scum. After initially thinking that Thing Fish was the scummiest in here, I no longer think that. I know that even if we lynch an innocent person we still learn a lot from their death, but I would still like my vote to go toward someone that I think is scum.
I know that anyrose is going to be replaced, but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t take into account the way that she played while she was in here. She seemed confrontational and unwilling to contribute much to the search for scum. If she was town, and she really thought that Thing Fish was scum, I would think that she would have been a little less defensive and confrontational when so many votes were against Thing Fish, hence my vote.
You may very well be right about this. However, I don’t think that a vote for Thing Fish is in town’s best interest any more, and my vote had to go somewhere. No one really pinged me more than anyrose did, for reasons that I have listed previously. Hopefully tomorrow we will have a lot more solid info to go on.
Yes, Thing Fish, take heart. If you are Town, your death still helps us, as it yields information. If you are scum, well, it really helps us. 