Okay, so you have a problem with certain behaviors, and don’t care if they’re drunk or not. Because what you said (“I’m saying I have no problem with people drinking, so long as they don’t get drunk. Once that happens, I’m leaving”) is pretty silly.
No, I don’t accept that. There’s no reason that any of us in this conversation have to be held to the medical or legal definition of the word “drunk.” As a social phenomenon, people are “drunk” when they start acting as if they’re drunk. And you know exactly what I’m talking about.
It’s not silly at all. Or, rather, it’s only silly if you for some strange reason insist that “drunk” means something in this context that it obviously doesn’t mean.
When I’m drunk I act perfectly sober. Virtually nobody but my wife can tell I’ve had too much and that’s only when she’s aware of how many drinks I’ve had.
Go home, Acsenray. You’re drunk.
Well, then if I enjoyed your company sober, then I’d also enjoy your company drunk.
(Go ahead … that’s a perfectly good straight line.)
So then you… never mind. I’m taking your keys.
This is a load of horseshit.
Slee
No, it isn’t. MsRobyn accurately describes how AA works, although neglected to mention the most important fact - it doesn’t actually work. The likelihood of staying off booze when going to AA is exactly the same as for people who do not go.
So, AA is removing people’s control of their lives for absolutely no gain.
Steve (13 months sober, and taking control of my life).
TOTALLY different !!! Diabetes is a disease, whereas…
Ahh, yes.
:dubious:
Take a deep breath, O.P.'er. I’m not an alcoholic, I rarely drink. I respect and appreciate the day to day fight an addict endures to NOT surrender to the addiction. Let them preach at you. What the hell is it going to hurt you? Enjoy the beer at the Super Bowl Party- why not? I do when I party and am not driving.
But a bit of tolerance here might be in order. These are people fighting for their lives, nothing less. I don’t pity them- pity is wasted. But I sure do respect the fight.
Maybe he doesn’t have any other friends he likes watching The Big Game[sub]Not yet a TM of the NFL, but they’re working on it[/sub] with yet. My club had a big party for members and their families and had weekly get-togethers for people who needed some non-drinkers to watch football with.
No, it is an accurate portrayal of the AA program. I go to meetings to see my friends who helped me through a rough patch. The rest of it tends to the bullshitty end of the spectrum.
Museums, palaces, landmarks, art, history, etc. :dubious:
You can disagree all you want with what I posted, but that’s my experience in almost 20 years of meetings in I forget how many states. YMMV, I guess.
But can you get a nice pastry at those places? Sorry, but I was fat before and after I drank and have a one-track mind.
That’s pretty much my MO also. If I’m at a party or bar no one will know that I’m drunk. If I get drunk at home I’ll usually just fall asleep on the couch watching TV.
Care to expand of this bit of thoughtfulness?
Don’t waste your time. Sleestak thinks that AA can do no wrong ever. Just do a search.
Yeah, that sounds like a terrible place. Fortunately I know a much better joint, One that meets health codes, has a great beer selection, really good food, friendly bartenders, convivial and interesting regulars, and decent music played at a reasonable volume. Also, I’ve met quite a few women there, which ain’t gonna happen at home. So let’s go there instead. I think the health inspectors are going to shut down your joint pretty soon anyway.
Does everybody know your name? And are they always glad you came?
100% correct.
But how else will I get my biannual fix of throwing up and passing out?
Drunk people are hilarious when one is sober. Seriously, go to a party where everyone is sloshed, don’t touch a tipple. Instant hilarity. Though it does drive one to drink…