I don’t know what constitutes “enough.” I have heard it said that “Too much is not enough.” That is a quote but I don’t remember where I heard it. Hope that clears things up.
Oh, now I get it. Thanks Crystal, your boardname is quite apropos.
You can feel free to call me Mr. Tied for 26th place on the favorite poster’s list.
Pet peeve alert: “Apropos” is not a synonym for “appropriate.” It means “timely.”
“It’s my considered opinion you’re all a bunch of sissies!”–Paul’s Grandfather
Awww crap. I knew that as I was posting, but didn’t look at the dictionary to be sure until after posting. Time to redo the order.
Damn, I forgot where I was for a moment: “You malaprop-spewing troglodyte! Here’s a ten spot; get yourself a Funk and Frigging Wagnall, will ya?”
“It’s my considered opinion you’re all a bunch of sissies!”–Paul’s Grandfather
To Turbid or Tergie or whatever your name is: I have read all the posts on this thread and am critical of your behavior to Techchick68. It seems that if someone gives you a little tongue lashing that you fight back spewing a little more pain to the other person. You obviously hurt her as her responses to you have been gentler with an obvious desire to get you off her back. Must you be so mean-spirited? Make your points but forget the pimping you hand out. Furthermore if your Bull shit was dynamite, you would blow the computers right off the desks of the4000 + members of SDMB!!
“If you are not becoming to others, you ought to be coming to us.”
Lasky’s hair Salon
Turkeyshit or Tergiversator: I forgot to mention the cheap shot passed out on “Did I contribute to the death of an ex-female friend”. No wonder SOME of you attorneys are despised. Look in the mirror. You’ll see one of them.
Oh yeah PlDennison
Well what gives you the right in your ivory tower to stick your nose in other people’s business and tell them they made a mistake. You have some nerve you screwed up sack of language arts skills.
Skelton,
Thanks.
Nuff said 
Teacherchick68…I was genuinely moved and impressed by the raw candor of your earlier post. It took a lot of guts. You’re definitely off my shit list…for now. <grin>
To PlDennision, the Pedantic PedaGOD,…the III?: Was it your father or your mother who so mercilessly ridiculed you when you were a little tiny tot? Or,…perhaps it was your grandfather? …It was your GRANDFATHER, wasn’t it Paul?
You should borrow a page out of Teacherchick’s book, it would do you a world of good. You might even earn a RED BADGE OF COURAGE!
terggie
You can call me whatever names you like Skelton…but for the love of Mike, JUST DON’T BREAK UP WITH ME!
psst…After checking out his post in “Your So Vane”, give PlDennison, the Pedantic PedaGOD,the III? directions on how to get to Lasky’s Hair Salon.
terggie
tergi,
First of all thanks for taking me, temporarily off your shit list, although I still wonder about your motives in what you say. (you were never on my shit list, very few are, one really has to piss me off to get there on a message board.)
I guess part of my honesty was to show to you that I am not a rich little bitch.
The thing is I am having a difficult time understanding why you have such disdain for the wealthy? I really haven’t seen a real reason. I realize you may work with some of the poorest people, given your title, but does that predispose the rich to being forced to give?
In our world, there have always been those with and those without. Unfortunately, we do live in a society that is more intuned to the money, material things, beauty (another thread could start on that) fame etc. But again, I must stress I know personally of the people that make a financial (and a physical) contribution gladly, to those organizations they deem fit their beliefs and appreciation. If that means they donate to a private organization or a furniture donation to Good Will, that is what they are in their perfect rights to do.
I also believe that if they choose not to, then that is their decision as well. But keep in mind, most of those people that can but don’t help are those that are very selfish. If they choose to live that way, then hey, you and I can’t judge them based on that.
You had stated “At the end of the day, a person’s character is measured by the quality of his deeds, not the quanity of his possessions.” To me this means the end of his/her life. Okay, that’s a truth that I live within my beliefs. If this is the truth then He (my God) shall judge the quality of his/her deeds and He shall deal with it, but as a mere mortal I can not and shall not force another mortal into doing something he/she can’t do. The only thing I can do as a mortal is to protect and do what I can as a human to help my fellow humans.
Charity is(and again I quote the dictionary, guess it’s my bible hehe) “kindly liberality and helpfullness esp. toward the needy or suffering; aid given to those in need.” Charitable has a reference to: generous. I don’t see forceable means in these words to define charity, but a means by which things (material, monetary or labor) are given out in kindness, in caring or gifts…
I agree that there are a lot of people that need more, which is why there are a lot of people out there that are doing more to help out. But if you can, rather than rant about your friend who lives in apparent opulence, talk to your friend about charities or organizations that you believe in and get a feel for where your friend stands. Maybe, through sublety you can get a better understanding of your friend’s beliefs and possible steer him/her more towards the things you see that need some financial help.
In addition, I must add this and there is no malice here, but I wonder if because of your job position and seeing that one of your friends lives with all these things, if it doesn’t kind rub you raw that he/she lives this way and possibly by seeing that you associate with this (through your friend) you feel guilty for it. Again, I am sincere and honest when I bring this up, please don’t take that the wrong way, read it again if it doesn’t make sense. If it doesn’t then I will do my best to clarify it.
One last comment, I stated that it takes a lot to get on my shit list. My shit list are reserved for those I wont and refuse to respond to.
A debate, either in the BBQ Pit or in the GD to me is just, a debate.
No one is every 100% right and no one is ever 100% wrong. What gets on my goat is when people refuse to see something and say “hey okay I hadn’t thought of that” which I have done over on the GD board before. I suspect you will see this more as I come out of my message board shell. I saw the err of my ways, pointed it out and went on the the next issue at hand. But, here’s my sig line that I rarely post, however in my “opinion” everyone should read carefully and realize it applies to each and everyone of us!
and to my sig line:
opinion - a belief held often without positive knowledge or proof.
oppress - to burden harshly, unjustly, or tyrannically.
don’t oppress my ability to have an opinion
Hijack alert!
Hearst very well knew what he was doing when he built Hearst Castle and filled it with treasures; he intended that it would be a museum after his death. He had spent quite a bit of time in Europe in his youth, with his mother, who was interested in art and architecture. He wanted to make what he had seen in Europe a little more accessible here. After his death, of course – he wanted to enjoy it himself while he was alive.
Oh, and Manny? George Bailey had some REALLY good counsel . . . 
-Melin
Okay, everyone clean out your ears (or rather eyes) and listen up. (especially you Techchic68!!!)
Never once did terg equate having money to evil. The point he was making (if I interpreted correctly, and I think I did) was that it is sad that people feel that happiness comes with owning possessions. I admit it is nice to have things. I like to collect books. But owning useless or unused “things” in order to validate your life is a sad way to be. Collecting records, especially of a favorite artist is different from insisting on having extravagant possessions.
Terg was simply saying that it would be a much nicer country to live in if people validated their lives by the good they did and the lives they touched rather than the things they owned.
At the university I attend the motto is “educating for lives of service.” I completely respect the students who are going here for just that reason–to learn a trade which will help them function responsibly in society. I don’t respect the kids who go here because it is, in and of itself, a status symbol. Those are the people who go out in life and buy baby grand pianos and multiple spas just so they can say they own a baby grand piano and multiple spas. Those are the people that make me disappointed in our society.
Wealth is not akin to evil, and I want to reiterate that Terg never implied that it was. Nor did he ever say wealth and/or giving to charity should be regulated.
Diane: although I was disgusted by your need to tout your wealth, no one is going to say that you are in the class that Terg is disgusted with. You seem to be using your wealth to raise smart, healthy children. That is not the same as “keeping up with the Jones’” by acquiring unused things. Although I am curious who’s money you used to get through school, I have a sneaking suspicion it was money you got in the divorce settlement from that husband who worked while you were at home.
No one is denying that some people with wealth do good things with it. And I don’t believe Terg ever said that ALL wealthy people are greedy and/or extravagant. He said he wished people would get their priorities straight and help others atleast as much as they help themselves. If those people with those possession give to charity–Wonderful! Think how much better it would be though if they decided to only live comfortably and used the extra they would have bought “things” with to help society. That would be even better. No one is saying what the wealthy should or should not do with their money. Let them do what they want, but then don’t tell me I can’t be disappointed in them for not giving a rat’s ass for their fellow man.
By the way, all you people who blamed the poor for their situations are assholes, that is no different than saying that all wealthy are greedy bastards.
Also techchic, you have made the worst assumptions I have seen in this thread. How can you assume that your father has worked any harder in his life than others, or that he had more/worse stresses in his life than Terg. You don’t seem to know Terg in real life, therefore, making assumptions about him and touting your father as better than him simply makes you look like an elitist bitch. Sorry if I offended.
“I celebrate myself, and sing myself, and what I assume you shall assume, for every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.” --Whitman
Let’s see it calls me “Paul” (probably due to the fact that it doesn’t recognize the cinematic illusion in my sig line), misspells the word “vain” in referring to a thread it says it has read, and doesn’t notice that others in that thread refer to me by my actual name, and it thinks “III” is written “the III,” and wonders why I think it is a subliterate doofus?
Plonk.
“It’s my considered opinion you’re all a bunch of sissies!”–Paul’s Grandfather
What, you think women “at home” don’t work? I’m a fulltime litigation lawyer, in the general counsel’s office for a national insurance company, and I’m also mom to three boys. The times in my life when I haven’t been working and have stayed home I have worked MUCH HARDER than I do as a lawyer.
Further, you know what you do when you ASSume?
-Melin
Sins,
“Also techchic, you have made the worst assumptions I have seen in this thread. How can you assume that your father has worked any harder in his life than others, or that he had more/worse stresses in his life than Terg. You don’t seem to know Terg in real life, therefore, making assumptions about him and touting your father as better than him simply makes you look like an elitist bitch”
You’re right, I don’t know Tergi IRL, and I do know people that work very hard in their daily lives. That said, I don’t believe that Tergi was taking into consideration that there are a lot of wealthy people out there that worked very hard to get where they are today. Yes, there are some that win lottos, some that are “over night successes” but a great deal of the rest work on their businesses with 10 hour days, taking work home and working on weekends. I know a lot of people that sit there and whine about how much money the boss makes, he never does anything, we do all the work blah, blah, blah. They sit there on Friday afternoon counting the minutes to 5:00 then blam, the offices are empty. AND I am not saying that you, or Tergi or anyone else on this board does this, but I have seen it.
As for me looking like an elitist bitch, that’s fine what you or anyone in here think of me. But if you look into other postings I have made, in here and on other boards, that’s where my true colors are showing.
I am average, I could be making a lot money right now but I am not. I am making that choice so my comments are pointed out at me as well. Yeah, I want a new Blazer, I want to own my house, I want a new computer etc…but obviously I don’t want them bad enough or I wouldn’t even be in this board at this time of day, I would be working to get those “things” I desire.
Speaking of, I have to split, time to get to work so I can pay my rent and utilities.
I think a very basic fact is being ignored here. Natural resources are finite. The fact that one person has more than they need means that someone else will have less. The fact that the person with more has “earned” it is irrelevant to the fact that by having this excess, he is condemning others to starvation, exposure to the elements, and so on.
I personally, for instance, have more than i need. I have significantly more than i need. Because I have more than I need, there is a large number of people who have less than they need to survive. This realy doesn’t bother me to a great extent, the people who suffer as a result of my material excess are usually kept well out of sight, and if I end up feeling guilty I can always contribute a bit of spare change to a charity or even spend a night volunteering at a soup kitchen. Now I could always say to myself that the people who have less than I do didn’t work as hard as I did. This may or may not be true. But in any case, is this a justification for essentially sentencing them to death by starvation, exposure, and so on?
Essentially what it all comes down to is whether or not you care that your excess is causing suffering of others. Personally I don’t. As far as I am concerned I simply got lucky by being born into a family that “had” as versus one that did not. When I graduate of course this won’t really help me out any more, but I’ll still have had the advantages that early wealth brought along with it, such as better schooling, or adequate health care. I would even go so far as to say that the same would be true of most everyone on this board. After all, everyone who posts here probably has their own computer, which indicates a rather substantial amount of wealth. The fact that I have more, and that because of that, others have less, does not bother me. Does this bother you?
Paul: The point is YOU’RE NOT MY EDITOR. Language style and usage is not an exact science. It doesn’t demand perfection. We don’t have to be perfect sspelllers. We don’t have to conform our styles, metaphors, and words to your, or any other, rigid set of rules. We don’t have to be precise. We don’t have to put form over substance. We’re not in school. We’re not being graded. YOU’RE NOT OUR TEACHER…so take your silly rules and go where you’ll be most appreciated…To Hell.
terggie