Down with Gluttony

The BBQ Pit
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Sins,

Did I ever state that being in a depression or potentially suicidal were glamorous or something to be proud of, NO.

If anything, it shows that someone can come back from such a dreadful feeling. Although I am dealing with such a depression again, I refuse to get to that point. My father never understood the depths with which I got to that point, but once I emailed my brother and told him my despair, my brother talked to my father about the situation and my father took my situation seriously even though he doesn’t understand it.

I realize this is not a debate or thread on depression, but I will add that anyone with those feelings need to seek help because it is treatable. Unfortunately, I am not on my meds so I am fighting it with will, and I will work through it.

As for bragging about my situation, that was never the intention, the intention was to bring to light that I was lucky enough to have a father that could help me financially because of many reasons. That said, there are a lot of public resources for those that can’t afford it.

As for bitching to me about this issue of my depression, sorry but you have bitched at me in other postings which leads me to believe that you 1. hate me for having been raised in a financially strong family 2. you like to read into things that aren’t there, you pick apart a posting to suit your whim.

My postings where to Tergi and meant to show him that not all wealthy people live their lives solely by the dollar and things. To show that there are a lot of wealthy people that do good things for this society outside of giving money but also adding man hours to organizations that need the help.

The majority of the postings in here were opposing Tergi’s original post. You came in here and started attacking those that opposed his post. Granted you tried to explain what his intentions were, cool, I give you that. Maybe Tergi should rethink his next BBQ Pit post if he/she doesn’t want to start a heated debate. That’s what this board is about. If Tergi, or you for that matter, wanted to create an honest debate, then the wording should be changed to reflect what you said and post it in the Great Debates.

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First of all, I didn’t realize that I had to be arrogant and rude when I was in the BBQ pit. I was under the impression that one could still have a serious discussion albeit with name-calling if one wished. So I guess you are saying that all of us who post in the BBQ pit are incapable of serious debate, and that we should instead go the another message board.

Second, when have I ever said I hate you? I could care less that you were raised in a wealthy family, I am not that shallow. I wasn’t so lucky, I don’t have jealousy issues with those that were. I believe that here YOU were reading into MY posts. I was simply debating the points with you. However I do think you are arrogant, but that is the attitude you chose to have and not necessarily a result of growing up with money.

Third, what you consider picking apart a post is simply me not addressing issues I have agreed with or accepted as possible. I only post replies to the things I disagree with or have an issue with. If everyone on here posted agreements this thread would already be a hell of a lot longer that it is.
I also wasn’t aware that people weren’t allowed to come into a thread and add posts. Was I not supposed to come in here and agree with Terg? I guess I should have known better than to have an opinion that went against yours, and I should have further known not to butt into the thread that was your’s and Terg’s exclusively. EVERYONE ELSE BETTER KEEP OUT OF THEIR THREAD!

And lastly, I never accused you of saying that suicide was glamorous. I am simply taking issue with your need to say it in here. You feel the need to go into the intimate little details of your illness like it is something that is part of this thread. It wasn’t important for you to mention suicide; you could have made your point without dragging your painful past out for examination.

You have in fact done it again here by informing us that you are fighting your depression without the aid of medication. Was it necessary to know this in order to understand your post? I don’t believe so.

“I celebrate myself, and sing myself, and what I assume you shall assume, for every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.” --Whitman

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GAWD!!! Someone please make IT stop whining!!!

>^,^<
KITTEN
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.

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Melin: I appreciate your comments on Bob Hope. I take nothing away from him as to the time he spent entertaining the troops for so many years. As far as parting with his assets as did Packer and Getty, Hope is miserly.

Bill Gates: approximately 37,000,000 shares of Microsoft were bought and sold last Fri. at about $112.00/share. If Gates just sold 1000 shares/day, he would have approximately $1,000,000/day to donate to the betterment of mankind. The anti-trust decisions, I believe, are to be made in Washington DC. My opinion is that his recent contribution to Black education may be related.

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I’ve been told that Ted Turner has donated over half of his fortune to charity. Anyone know if it is true?

“I celebrate myself, and sing myself, and what I assume you shall assume, for every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.” --Whitman

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Sins,

At this time I will not go further in a debate with regards to my depression and such.

I will however send you a link with regrards to Ted Turner it’s an old article, but he did contribute a lot of money:
http://fdncenter.org/pnd/951108/000591.html

Also, The Earth Times reported that he has donated 1 billion dollars to the United Nations.

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Thanks for the link, and we can drop the depression thing. I probably came down way too hard. Just personal issues I have with how rampant depression and suicide have gotten. I shouldn’t have taken it out on you. Sorry.

“I celebrate myself, and sing myself, and what I assume you shall assume, for every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.” --Whitman

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Sins,

No Problem, hope the linked helped.

I assume there is some kind of “report” out there that keeps track of major players like Turner and Gates and their donations…anyone have any ideas?

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Um, with all due respect, techchick – and I don’t know whether there is or is not – but why should there be, really? Aren’t these people entitled to make whatever donations they choose without having somebody breathing down their neck, ready to report it? I think the classiest donors are the “anonymous” ones, myself. Which means that you might never know how much money one of these rich folk has given away.

-Melin

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I will stick up for Techchick once again. Anonymous giving is super classy. But when someone donates large figures to any beneficial cause, let him/her get some recognition. It might encourage some of the squeaky tight wealthy people to donate when they don’t see their name listed in the “Book of Donors”. The listing of givers and how much they give is used everywhere to raise money.

“I gave at the office”. “We already contributed” etc. reflect “anonymous” givers who usually don’t give.

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I understand your point of view, Skelton. But I was raised with the tradition where you quietly slip your widow’s mite into the plate rather than loudly and ostentatiously tossing in a large sum of money out of your petty cash. When you give loudly you get your reward here on earth; when you give anonymously and quietly, your reward comes in heaven. So my mother taught me, at any rate.

-Melin

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Just skimmed through this thread. While I agree that Tergie is thin skinned, I thought he had some insightful comments on the hierarchy of this bulletin board. Furthermore, I admire him for not rolling over to the Old Guard. Oh, I am such a troll.

Phil, or as Tergie says, Paul…Did I use the word hierarchy in the right context? Oh I hope so. I wouldn’t want to offend. Was a comma misplaced. I’d feel so insignificant to have a mature, educated man as yourself call me an “It”. That’s probably not apropos, is it? In truth, if you called me an “It”, I would wear it as a red badge of courage.

Diane…reach into your dresser and break out your 9" back massager. Your so tense and uptight. You sound as if you are able and clever, but when is the last time you had any? Lighten up, babe.

Melin… we are all envious of your 100 million dollar lawsuits…at least I am. Thanks for sharing that with us. End of argument. God knows your dick must be the biggest

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sorry manhattan, your dick is the biggest, not melins

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I had some this morning and three times over the weekend, but thanks for the suggestion. I’m not tense or uptight in the least, I do however have a very low tollerance for whining.

Oh, and that 9" back massager in my night stand? It’s called a vibrator.

>^,^<
KITTEN
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.

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I’d heard of sock puppets and straw men, but hadn’t actually seen one. That is, until just now.

Kinda like a full size spare. Or a Coelacanth.

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Melin,

I totally agree that people should be able to donate annonymously, but it is a curious question though.

These “celebrities” can be a positive for others to donate time and money for good causes. Personally, it’s none of our business I agree, but it’s still a question worth wondering about :slight_smile:

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Bill Gates: approximately 37,000,000 shares of Microsoft were bought and sold last Fri. at about $112.00/share. If Gates just sold 1000 shares/day, he would have approximately $1,000,000/day to donate to the betterment of mankind.

The same thing could be said of much of the stuff most people own: If you didn’t buy the computer you have, you’d have $1500-2000 to give to charity. If didn’t buy the TV you have, that’s another few hundred, etc.

Which brings us back to the question: How much wealth may a person have before it becomes appropriate to say such things?

Life is a tragedy for those who feel and a comedy for those who think.

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Robodude: I feel certain that Bill would be able to donate without selling his computer.

“Blood is thicker than water”