Dowsing with pictures of people

…I am a 40 year old Lawyer from Pakistan) ( also lived and studied law in UK) , basically a level headed guy ….My question IS
about a Month Back just for fun I used pictures of friends and relatives FOR DOWSING (communicate with them telepathically ), however I also used a ROSARY( didn’t have a pendulum) Clock wise for a” YES” and anti clock wise for a “NO” …some answers were totally correct , some not but most were ok ….Basically Put this Rosary on the picture and started shooting questions ….bCOZ I KNOW THAT pictures of living people have some sorta “energy”( dont want to go into details here) Google Radionics( i literally grew up it) anyway …Some correct answers that i got i actually didnt know at the time i put the question , it was only later when i verified from them …

But the most startling thing which I require expert advice was this Friend I had not seen for 2 months and who lives in another city ( now moved to UK) ….for over 1 month I tried at different times /different days/ different types of question …However what left me dumb founded was the reply in one ….Now I knew this person did not dream let alone remember them …so I basically knew the answer would be a”NO”( anti clockwise movement of the rosary) but to my surprise ‘DID U HAVE A DREAM WHICH MADE YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND”? ANSWER “yes” now I was left totally amazed…i probed and probed for weeks etc but till date the answer is always YES , + since it was a sorta Spiritual type of a dream) I asked various other questions …+the Person also said he consulted people in connection with this dream etc etc ( I mean I asked did you consult any one? Till date answer is always a Yes and so on….The person is in UK and I tried it again a few times same result…I Know my sub conscious .and auto suggestions might be kicking in by now …but I tried to you know not look at all at the ROASARY , in fact I even I tried to move it in the opposite direction but I felt there was a minor, little bit of force or resistance of sorts and the thing then moved to give the same answeres ….
I need expert advice …what do you suppose ???

My supposition is that if you studied the phenomenon under genuinely scientific conditions it would disappear into randomness. This is because nobody has ever been able to demonstrate any psychic phenomena under scientific conditions.

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You’re a lawyer who has studied and practiced law in two different countries, and yet taken up dowsing pictures with rosaries? Wow.
Anyway, a simple answer to what is probably effecting you is called “The Ideometer Phenomenon or Effect”. I don’t know what you mean when you say you tried not to to look at all at the Rosary-either you looked at it or you didn’t, but the only way to tell where it is going is to look at it, so I have to assume you looked at it, right?

Truthfully?

I “suppose” you really want to believe that your vague pestering of a friend (to try to confirm something that popped into your head while you were playing with a rosary and photos, I apologize but the description of the equipment and protocols in this experiment is dreadfully poor) SIGNIFIES SOMETHING PORTENTIOUS.

I “suppose” this is harmless self delusion on your part.

This, from a lawyer?

He may not specialize in supernatural law.

You are fooling yourself using the ideomotor effect. Most people who do this want very badly to believe and so they are not amenable to critical discussion of their “skills” and will deliberately avoid a clear rational objective test and will fudge and rationalise till they find “proof” of what they want to find. If that’s a description of you (and be honest with yourself - it is, isn’t it?) stop reading now. We can’t help you.

If by some chance you are actually interested in the reality of the position do this: get ten photos of friends or relations, half of which have some particular characteristic for which you can dowse, and half of which don’t. So for example say if dowsing would work to tell if someone was a man or a woman, then get photos of five men and five women.

Get a big sheet of opaque cardboard or something like that and mark it out with a numbered grid with each cell of the grid the size of your photos.

First, lay out the photos in a pattern that you can remember like maybe all the men in the top row and all the women in the bottom row. Cover over with the sheet of cardboard. Dowse over each photo and ask if the person in the photo is a man or a woman. This is just to check that your dowsing powers work under these conditions. Obviously it isn’t a fair test at this point because you know the answers to the questions. This is called the “open” or control section of the test.

Now take the sheet off, and leave the room, and get someone else to go in and rearrange all the photos in a random order that they don’t tell you, and put the sheet over them again. Then get them to leave the room so they can’t give you any clues. Now you go in and try out your dowsing and ask whether each photo is a man or woman. So there are no arguments, write on the sheet over each photo “man” or “woman” depending on what answer you get by dowsing.

Now get your assistant back in the room and get them to mark with you how you did. Repeat the experiment a few times. You will find that your long term average is about 50% ie no better than guesswork. In other words, you will conclude dowsing doesn’t work, right?

Or alternatively, more likely you will conclude it does, but just didn’t work that day. Or under cardboard. Or when the photos are close together. Or because it was too windy. Or that it does work but not for man/women choices. Or whatever. But at least I tried, right?

I do. I make it up as I go along and no one has ever proven me wrong.

Even a broken ROSARY clock is right twice a day.

I’m sorry. I meant to say “This, from someone with a college degree?”

I always wondered what “whirling dervesh” meant. (Well, ok, not enough to actually look it up) but is apparently is some sort or mind-spinning woo.

The phrase is “Whirling Dervish”, a type of Sufi dancing.

Hogwash!

I just stated that I didn’t care enough to look it up! :smiley:

I had heard the term and seen it written and assumed it was a type of spinning toy.

Now I know better. I’ve learned something new today, and it’s not even 9am. Guess I can skate until 6pm and go home. Thanks!!! :smiley:

A rosary will make a great pendulum (usually), in general one way I describe what one can use for dowsing to students (especially those who are somewhat sceptical) is any device where you can 1: move it consciously if you want to to have a noticeable effect, but one you can tune out and not do your conscience movements and use this device as a detector and amplifier of your subconscious movements.

Now while I do believe it interacts with what I may call ‘life energy fields’, describing it to notice and amplify our subconscious helps people feel comfortable understanding how it works, and is really one in the same as all is life energy.

Absolute nonsense, and totally unsupportable.

Well at least I’m honest enough to say my belief in Christianity is based purely on faith alone.

Ah, see, that’s where you went wrong. If you don’t have a pudendum you are supposed to dowse a peccary. Makes more sense now, eh?
[sub]BTW, what happened to your pudendum?[/sub]

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For the hell of it, I googled “Radionics”,and was SHOCKED to learn:

I’m not expecting the OP to return. I’m betting his rosary will send him negative vibes.