Dr. Laura wants her first amendment rights back...

No words do. If you want to call black people “niggers,” no one is stopping you.

Imus got fired because he lost his sponsors. That’s what really matters. If you cost your employer money, you aren’t going to work.

University of Southern California is ranked 23 in the nation by US News & World Report.

I don’t believe your claim that anyone can buy such a certification.

Looking over USC’s website, it seems that their program in Marriage, Family, and Child Counseling requires 50 post-graduate class hours, along with a whole bunch of other stuff. This is completely inconsistent with your claim.

What am I missing here?

You are aware that Dio knows everything, right? Sorry you had to waste your time “doing research” and “assessing factual information” — but Dio has already spoken. Better luck next time!

You aren’t missing anything. We’ve entered into Diogenes-land, where the facts don’t matter.

Regards,
Shodan

Wake me up when we stop quibbling over Dr. Laura’s “qualifications” and we get back to how she’s a whining harpie with a persecution complex.

Because USC paid off Reggie Bush under the table, the NCAA ruled they’re not allowed to be in the Top 25. Of anything. The NCAA is harsh.

Their program to receive WHAt requires 50 post-graduate hours? What is a “certificate,” and what does it mean for a university to “certify” anybody? What certification does she actually have from any licensing body?

I find it interesting that Schlessinger thinks she can find a place where she can spout off about things and no one could possibly get angry or tired of hearing it.

To oppose her, to disagree, to get angry, all of these things infringe on her rights. All of these things are only possible because she’s on the radio and she’s under attack.

Well, I suppose it’s true that I never would have heard of her if she hadn’t been on the radio, so I wouldn’t know to oppose her, to disagree, or to get angry. But I’m not on the radio, and plenty of people oppose me, disagree, and get angry at what I say.

Well, it’s true at least that the “post-doctoral” part is meaningless. Nobody uses such a construction except in describing Schlessinger’s credential specifically. Not only that, almost all such references use precisely the same construction Shodan did (“certification” instead of “certificate,” etc.), suggesting that they all copied and pasted from one another. It makes me wonder exactly where the characterization originated.

Also, it seems her claims to be a “licensed psychotherapist” are inaccurate because she never held a license, per se–just the certificate. The state Board of Psychology site says such licensing would require not just a 50-hour certificate program, but a full-fledged doctoral degree program (in psychology or education) plus a 3000-hour internship plus a state licensing exam.

At a minimum, it seems reasonable to say that Schlessinger plays fast and loose in describing her qualifications.

I don’t think what she said was all that bad.

I listen to talk radio. Her show used to be on the main talk radio station I listen to. Quite a few years back I heard a caller ask for some advice from Dr. Laura, and from that point on I knew she was batty.

Paraphrasing, the caller said:

"My husband gets together with a few of his old college buddies once a year. They take turns hosting and cooking a gourmet meal for each other and end up drinking and getting drunk. This year I asked if I could attend, and my husband said ‘Sure, there’s no reason why you can’t come along’ and so I did.

Well, they ended up drinking all night and smoking cigars and getting really drunk together. When I mentioned to my husband that this bothered me, he got all defensive and said, it only happens once a year. What’s the big deal?

Dr, Laura’s response: "Your husband has a substance abuse problem and if he can’t see that then it’s up to you to point it out to him and get him help. There’s no reason why a group of grown men should behave this way unless they have substance abuse issues.
Once a year? WTF? My advice would have been, “How about next year you just stay home and let him enjoy himself for a night?”

I never listened to her again.

No, I am afraid that is not true at all - cite, cite, cite, cite, cite, etc.

While I certainly agree that there is a certain amount of playing fast and loose with the facts here, it is not Dr. Laura Schlesinger who is doing so.

Regards,
Shodan

Those cites prove that there is such a phrase as “post doctoral”, but that doesn’t address spark’s observation.

The word “post-doctoral” is used in conjunction with continuing education and specializations for people who already have relevant doctorates, but there’s no such thing as a “post-doctoral certification” in family counselling as opposed to just a regular certificaftion. That’s a completely invented construction.

Here’s a general description:

Here’s a description of a specific post-doctoral certification offered by another school:

Here’s a dentist with a post-doctoral certificate in Orthodontics – from USC, interestingly enough, where he also TAUGHT taught Orthodontics.

But my post’s dentist does.

No it doesn’t. There’s nothing in any of that about her fake, bullshit, imaginary “counselling” certificate, and I don’t see how she could have qualified for a post-doctoral program in that direction anyway since she did not have a relevant doctorate to begin with.

Seems to me the case here is that the guy was a dentist and properly licensed as such then got further training in a specific area of dentistry.

This would be akin to you becoming and attorney (going to school and passing the Bar exam) and then down the road getting further education in Anti-Trust law.

Now, if you got your J.D. and then took a post-doc in family counseling I would not say you are a doctor of family counseling. Indeed you would have minimal experience as a family counselor. That you can technically apply the “Dr.”* to your name might meet the letter of the law (so to speak) but hardly the spirit of it. Doing so would be misleading.

*Note: I have always been a bit unclear if attorneys are technically allowed to apply “Dr.” to their names. IIRC a J.D. is a graduate degree and stands for “Juris Doctor”. That said I never see any attorneys do that. Whatever the case I hope the sense of what I was getting at above is clear without a need to nit-pick the particulars.

Yes, it does. This is a person other than Schlesinger that uses the same construction. That contradicts spark240’s observation.

From my cite above:

So I have shown you that such things as post-doctoral certifications exist, that they require hours of study as opposed to simply writing a check, and that it’s possible to receive one even if your doctoral degree is in another specialty area.

In response, you have simply continued to deny the possibility, without providing any evidence or citation to support your position.