It’s not a program offered by USC.
ETA Nothing in your cite says anything about “post-doctorate,” by the way.
What kind of proof are you looking for?
She was a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, which certainly could be considered a form of psychotherapy. She does indeed hold the post-doctoral certification that Diogenes unfortunately persists in denying. She let her license lapse when she left private practice.
She was on the graduate psychology faculty at Pepperdine University.
She has never claimed ot be an MD or anything like that, if that is what you are getting at.
If you have an actual cite where she claims to be a “licensed psychotherapist”, then by all means produce it, along with the context, so we can see if this actually means anything.
Regards,
Shodan
Not now. Bu they offer a Marriage and Family Therapy program, and I have shown you proof that this is the new name for Marriage, Family, and Child Counseling.
My material has just been cut in half.
How about some confirmation from USC that it ever offered such a program, and that she completed it.
Her own credibility is highly compromised by the fact that she is already known to have falsified her credentials in the past.
She was never licensed in anything, ever.
I don’t need a cite when yours says exactly what I said already. I clearly stated that some certificate requirements are extensive and that the certificates themselves are required for licensing in some fields. I don’t see the issue here.
The simple fact is this woman is not a psychologist in any way shape or form and has never been licensed in any state. In fact, unless USCs requirements are less stringent than PCOMs she shouldn’t even be able to take the course because she doesn’t have a doctorate in psychology at all.
Hell, I decided to look into that. It seems USC doesn’t offer any “post doctoral certifications” in Theories of Marriage, Family, and Child Counseling at all. It only offers a Course of Instruction on it so she’s probably lying about that anyway.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/publications/cat99/education/index.html
Courses of instruction require no degree in the field they pertain to. In other words, anyone can take them with department permission.
Show me where it says anything about that being a post-doctoral program.
So to be clear, the only evidence acceptable to you is a statement from USC?
If I e-mail USC and get an answer, and report here on the result, will that be acceptable?
Why debate the credentials?
Howard Stern gives out advice all the time. No outrage that he never had a lisence/certificate/doctorate appears to be rampant in the interwebs. Granted, he never claims to hold any lisence, but so what? It’s just another radio hosts opinion.
Re Dr. Laura she was huge 10 years ago then just went off the radar. Per the transcript she’s was behaving like a complete jackass, but lest we demonize her too much, I’m not particularly religious, but I did listen to her show on AM many years ago and she did offer quick and practical relationship advice to many callers who called in with insoluble personal muddles. After their tale of woe she would reduce the choices down to “Do X or Y” you’ve got to make a choice and take a stand if you want this to change.
The reason for listening to show came next when the callers would then go “Bwah?.. Make…a… choice? Take a stand?.. but I can’t!” The fascinating thing was that many of these insoluble complexities were due to to people simply not wanting to take action or do the hard thing. People just wanted to be weenies and hope for the best. It was an interesting insight into human nature.
Exactly. I agree with some of the other posters here that if she had used the n-word as a spring board for an intelligent discussion on race, she would have been all right. But from what I heard, she basically used this woman’s complaint about her husband’s friends using racial epithets as an opportunity to issue a tu quoque argument about how because black comedians use the n-word that makes all right for anyone else to say it in any context. Never mind that the caller never said or otherwise indicated that she approved of blacks saying it.
Gah. I can’t spell fer sheet.
She’s free to give advice.
It is just misleading to have her call herself Doctor Laura. While she does have a PhD it is misleading in the context of her personal advice show.
Imagine I got a PhD in Archaeology. Would it be ok for me to open up a marriage counseling business and put Dr. Whack-a-Mole on the door? I do no explicitly state I am a doctor of psychology or therapy or whatever. It is more a lie of omission. Most people will assume Dr. Whack-a-Mole’s marriage counseling is run by someone with a PhD in counseling (or whatever covers that). Me taking 50 hours of credit from a university in that field does not change that.
Howard Stern makes no pretense at being an expert in the advice giving field. Anyone calling him for advice is perfectly aware of who he is and what his credentials (or rather lack of them in the counseling field) are.
She claims it in her book The Ten Commandments. Which is illegal in California by the way. She has NEVER had a license in psychotherapy because she has no degree in psychotherapy as I have already stated. You don’t need shit to be a marriage counselor. It’s a two year degree in California today and the requirements must have been less when she had a practice because she doesn’t even have said degree. Apparently the certification course was enough then. And she must have been one hell of a marriage counselor seeing as she cheated on her husband with two different men at that time and then went on to hook up with a married man.
Also, the only place that says she was “on the faculty” of Pepperdine is her own written bio. The only actual thing I can find is that she spoke there as a guest speaker. If you have something besides that I’d love to see it because I find it hard to believe Pepperdine would have someone who doesn’t even have a degree in psychology teaching psychology.
The First Amendment really doesn’t enter into this. The issue is that she’s somewhat famous, therefore people pay attention to what she says and there is a backlash if she offends people. She can’t get away with some things that a private citizen can get away with. The problem is having people pay attention to you is the whole point of being famous. She’s not going to give that up. What she really means is that she only wants positive responses from a friendly audience.
Excellent point, “Expert”
Could I see a cite, please?
Again, I would like to see a cite that it is illegal to refer to yourself as a psychotherapist if you have a post-doctoral certification.
Regards,
Shodan