Celestial toymaker - don’t know the story very well, but doesn’t the Toymaker destroy those who lose his games? I think there was someone killed during a game of musical chairs, wasn’t there?
Savages, Fury - don’t know those at all.
Mind Robber - Weren’t the inhabitants of the Land Of fiction supposedly real people once? And they were destroyed along with the Land, weren’t they?
Castrovalva - Doesn’t The Master shoot lightning bolts from his TARDIS that kills some people at the Radio Telescope? Or was that the previous episode? Anyway, the people of Castovalva were alive, even if artificial.
Four To Doomsday - weren’t some of the Robots "killed, " I think Enlightenment and Persuasion didn’t survive. Again, they were artificial but still arguably alive.
I tried to get my GF to watch it but she got scared off just by the commercial/trailer of this episode…
Anyway, is Dr. Konstantine (sp?) supposed to be an actual historical figure? Should I be embarrassed for not knowing who he is?
Also, why did the Doctor tell Jack to take away the bomb instead of just holding it in stasis for a couple more miniutes, then dropping it on the medical transport?
No there is no pause, but there is an inflection, and I believe my transcription more accurately reflects the meaning and the tone, whereas the other one makes it sound like the doctor is saying he is not a red bike, which is not the way it came across when he said it.
Perhaps more accurately still would be
“Who says I’m not (red-bike-when-you-were-twelve)”
“The Celestial Toymaker” has several victims of the Toymaker’s deadly games (the only one we get to see, in the one surviving episode, is Cyril the nasty schoolboy getting electrocuted). But, arguably, they’re not real people, just constructs of the Toymaker’s imagination. The same, presumably, applies to “Castrovalva” (the mayhem at the radio telescope is in the previous story, “Logopolis”).
There’s nothing in “The Mind Robber” to imply the fictional characters are anything but fictional - the only “real” person there, apart from the regular cast, is the guy who’s had his brain slaved to the master computer, and he’s not killed, they take him with them. On the other hand, the master computer is destroyed. (Though not the land of fiction itself. I think. But, then, the whole story could be a dream sequence or a hallucination of some kind … )
If you argue that the computer was “alive”, I guess the same would hold for the robots in “Four To Doomsday” … I’m not so sure about “Snakedance”, though - can the Mara be permanently destroyed?
Everything I’ve got (including the audio versions) referring to “The Savages” (late William Hartnell story) and “Fury from the Deep” (middle-ish Patrick Troughton period) confirms that nobody dies in these stories - even some people thought dead in an accident in “Fury from the Deep” turn out to be OK in the end.