drad dog, I’ve had enough. The last straw is in your “I think Tom Petty is overrated” thread when you say, in response to someone commenting that some folks might think Prince is overrated, you reply:
To be clear: No one started a thread about Prince being overrated. Here it is: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=791111 The OP is asking why folks hold him up so highly. YOU, however, stopped by to threadshit, oh, excuse me, “drop some supposedly heretical knowledge on folks who think they know better” where basically you came across as a three year who kept asking WHY?
“I don’t like that track!!! Prove it to me!!! Is this the track that is supposed to change my mind??? Guitarists aren’t real artists anyway, and my rules matter most!!!”
No, you chucklehead, we are not here to come on bended knee bringing you tasty treats. Fucking engage in a dialogue and respect what others have to say.
But that ain’t gonna happen.
As for Petty, at least you had the decency to start a separate “Prove it to me. Prove it to me. I am smugger and douchier than thou, but Prove it to me anyway” thread.
As many folks are chiming in, Petty was never on a majority’s tippy top list. But he was like the Oakland Raiders in the 1970’s - they were your second-faves beyond your fanboy/girl team. You just kinda liked them.
However, he sold a HUGE volume of records. Gained the songwriting respect of Bob Dylan and George Harrison. Had songs that are part of the fabric of (certainly U.S.) culture from the 1970’s, 1980’s, 1990’s. Free Fallin’ will be used for some 3D holo-documentary about the U.S. in a hundred or so years when you and I will be long forgotten.
And you want me/Dopers to prove to you that he’s not overrated? Fuck you. He’s worthy of more respect than you, you smug douche. Petty was never my guy - I maintain four or so of his songs on guitar and rarely put on his albums - but I understand the facts of his career and respect him for it. Coming at it from that standpoint, one might choose to observe that perhaps Bob Dylan and George Harrison found a concise haiku in the best of Petty’s lyrics: “She was an American Girl, raised on promises.” “You think you’re gonna take her away, with your money and your cocaine.” “She was a good girl, crazy 'bout Elvis.” We can picture these people in a phrase. What can you write that comes close to that? Petty’s best songs capture a longing, an outsider’s isolation and bitterness, in a way that Sting, Mr. King of Pain, can only approach with a sledgehammer.
But you would never have a conversation that led to that type of discussion because you are such a fucking smug douchebag troll.
Go away or grow up.