Dream Super VILLAIN Groups

Cafe Society
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Someone in the hero thread mentioned it, so here goes. (Let’s leave it open to all fiction, literature, everything, yes?) I guess the only real problem here is that supervillains typically do not play well with others.

The Brains: Professor Moriarty, of Sherlock Holmes fame. Managed to have all the crime in London under his personal sway, from the flashiest murders to the lowliest pickpocketing and ruffianry. Also a mathematician of the first rank, and possessed of not unimpressive physical strength.

Hired Gun: Kraven the Hunter, Amazing Spider-Man. Lots of neat gadgets, cool goatee, impressive aim, jungle herbs and potions. I just like him. Also, he managed to impersonate Spidey for a while, which is pretty difficult.

The Financing: L. Bob Rife, from Snow Crash. Sort of a cross between Bill Gates, Ted Turner, and Jerry Falwell. He controls all the media transmission in the world, owns the framework of the Internet, and is branching out to become his own demigod. Does most of his work out of his personal nuclear-powered aircraft carrier while having his mustache waxed.

Provider of the Evil Army: Queen Malformed-Festering-Bloated-Sweaty-Puss Filled-Slug-for-a-Butt, Earthworm Jim. She has an army of lethal humanoid insects willing to die at her merest whim, plus she gets a lot of good lines. Also, it’s my list.

Complete Wild Card: Jeff, from Scud - The Disposable Assassin. A demon that is practically indestructible and has the power to assimilate just about anything to change her form. Turning Jeff loose on anyone mortal is the end for them!

I know this is a strange list, but it’s my OP. Feel free to make your own suggestions.

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Brains: MAAAAAAaaaad Doctor Doom (no relation) and Chester from Bob Bolling’s magnificent L’il Archie comics. He’s an evil scientist, green and warty, and invents death rays by the thousands. What more do you want?

Financing: Baron Von Grabbe from Sugar and Spike. Owns his own country, and doesn’t have as many…issues as Marvel’s Dr. Doom.

Zap Bolts: Starfinger (he’s the man, the man with the starry touch!) from Legion of Super Heroes. Has ten beams of varying degrees of flaming death. (Sort of like the Mandarin from Iron Man, but tougher zap-beams)

Muscle: Satan Girl:Supergirl (the Earth-1, push planets around) version under the influence of Red Kryptonite. Evil, smart, and (because of the Red K) immune to Green K): She’s the rockingist Evil Chick around!

Psychic: Gorilla Grodd. A super-strong, super-psychic, super-gorilla. Could eat Professor X for lunch. Also telekenetic!

Magic: Magica DiSpelle from Carl Bark’s Uncle $crooge comics: A femme fatale with magic and foof bombs. Brains, and ducky beauty. Yowza!

Also, Evilheart: No real powers, an evil Batman type. He’s Reggie Mantle, from Archie comics.

and just for the fun of it, Dial “V” for Villian: Sockamagee! Robbie Reed’s arch-nemesis! Random powers!

I’m missing one, but I can’t think of the name… gimme a few minutes.

Fenris

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OK, here’s my picks:

For leader I’ll choose Lex Luthor. Most other bad guys don’t play well with others, but at least Lex has experience leading the Legion of Doom.

I’m tossing in Killer Frost simply 'cause I like her. Every bad group needs either one heat or cold type.

For mental powers I choose Psimon. I don’t know if anyone remembers him but he was nasty.

Strength? Juggernaut.

Taskmaster. Our organization needs an endless supply of henchmen and it sould be pretty easy to incorporate his henchmen school.

And for our Random/Mystic type I’ll use the FF’s old foe - Diablo.

Not exactly the most powerful bunch of baddies, but all the really powerful ones would to lead. And this group could be interesting.

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Brains: Emperor Palpatine. He’s all powerful, conquered the known galaxy, and the next two Star Wars films (hopefully) will really illustrate just how ruthless he is. Plus, he has all the best lines in Return of the Jedi.

Flunky: Dr. Doom : I could see Palpatine putting someone like Doom in a position where he THINKS he’s in power. Doom is crafty and dangerous enough to think he’s in power, but arrogant enough not to realize he’s being played like a fiddle.

Firepower: Sinestro. An evil Green Lantern; his energy capabilities would be theoretically limitless. If we could overcome his resistance to all things green, he’d be perfect.

Strength: Juggernaut, for reasons already said.

Psychic: B]The Skull** from Marvel’s EARTH X series, a postpubescent teen with the power to control the bodies of anyone. Not quite a psychic, but would definitely come in handy. Doom and Palpatine would both be ruthless enough to develop some kind of safeguard against his power.

The Hired Gun: Taskmaster, another Marvel villain with the power to duplicate anyone’s talent. He’s seen people like Spider-Man and Captain America in combat and has learned to mimic perfectly their moves. VERY dangerous in combat. If he spent a week watching Batman, there’d be no stopping him.

The Funnyman: Madcap, another Marvel villain who couldn’t die or feel pain. He’d frequently sever his own limbs. Very funny, very annoying, very dangerous.

The Monkey: Gorilla Grodd. Every super-villain team needs a monkey villain.

Oh, and their secret base would be on Ego the Living Planet.

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i have been trying to think of an answer for this post all day long…trying to decide whatr kind of team would be taken on by these villians, what their purpose would be…etc;

so, i am going to just try to make the evil of the evil, based on a generic formula we had used for the heroes…

Leader: i would usually place my faith on lex luthor…however this time it should be someone with a little more power…so how about the dark guy from behind the scenes…Mephesto!!! he is a major baddie…and he has decided to band all of these villians together to briing him more souls, especially the souls of heroes!!!

the figurehead: would definately be Lex…for the same reasons ResIpsaLoquitor put doom in the flunkie position. although you know both doom and lex are both going to weasel their way out of it…and neither one would know they were flunkies at first.

Dumb sidekick evil guy: the toad! of course! he is always a dumb sidekick guy!

Powerful son/daughter figure: well i would have to go with typhoid (mary?) and sabertooth.

this is all i can come up with…i have to do some research

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Everybody always underestimates Doctor Doom. He’s as smart as Reed Richards, performs magic almost on par with the Sorceror (sp?) Supreme, and has a suit to rival Iron Man. He invinted a time travel machine, out tricked Mephisto, stole the power of the Beyonder, and in a recent mini-series killed a lion barehanded. He also has the resources and manpower of a country behind him. The only reason the dude keeps coming up short is because the writers can’t have him ruling the world. He would be able to wipe the floor with most supervillans including Palpatine.

That all said, he works solo.

A villianous team is tough to assemble because their goal is evil but aspire to teamwork, trust, and loyalty to be effective. Evil mutants are the best example where this could work. They see each other as family. Therefore, the best supervillan team is composed of mutants with Magneto at its helm.

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:: pouts ::

Fine. You wanna take this seriously? Fine. I like the “Baron Von Grabbe” team, but…fine.

I assume that “No Cosmic Bad-Guys” is a rule, or I’m just gonna have to throw in Galactus, The Beyonder, The Time Trapper, Darkseid, Molecule Man, the Infinite Man, etc.

Therefore:

Leader: Dr. Doom, for all the reasons Wolverine listed. Plus, per Sue Richards (FF #116 or so) “Doom is more charismatic than Reed and frankly a better leader” and Sue would know.

Brains: Lex Luthor, Earth-1 The 1960s version. He could get along with the Joker AND Braniac, so he clearly plays well with others. And frankly, he’s smarter than Doom.

Brawn: Ultraman (the Superman of Earth-3), all of Superman (Earth-1)'s powers, PLUS he gets additional powers from Kryptonite.

Psychic Stuff: Gorilla Grodd: Like I said in my first post: a super-strong gorilla who’s in Professor X’s range of psychic skills. (My first thought was Saturn Queen, but she’s easy to knock out. Plus if you get her near a chunk of Saturn’s rings, she turns all nice.)

Super-Speed: Professor Zoom. Y’know the old line about “able to pass through solid objects like a straw through a tree in a hurricane”? Ever seen what happened to the tree, afterwards? Nasty, nasty guy.

Magic: Baron Mordo. Can go one-on-one with Doc Strange, and’ll take orders. My first choice was Myrhwiddhen (sp), an obscure Green Lantern villain (sort of a chaotic-evil Myxtzptlk), but he won’t work with other characters. Neither will Loki.

Gimmick/Zap Beam villians: Dr. Light. Yeah, I know he became a joke in the '80s, but in the '60s, he took on the JLA several times and only lost because the author cheated.

AND

Emerald Emperess: Keith Giffen version. Imagine a smart, nasty EVIL Green Lantern. Brrrrrrrr…

and last:
Weapon guy: The Persuader (Earth-1 version). He’s got an axe that behaves like Thor’s hammer (comes when you call it, etc) that can cut through anything. Since it can cut through dimensions, gravity, atoms, Superman, etc… I’d say it can slice through adamantium like a hot knife through butter. If it cuts you, you’re dead.

And my super-villain team can beat up YOUR super-villain team! Nyaaah! :stuck_out_tongue:

Fenris

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Ah, you just hit one of my pet peeves. All respect to the Atomic Axe, but I don’t think it should be able to cut adamantium. Secondary adamantium, yes, but not true adamantium. It seems like Marvel’s made adamantium far too vulnerable lately. I’m not real big on Magneto being able to reshape it, either, but I’m finally accepting that.

The Persuader is a badass, though. No doubt about that.

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I agree with you that nothing should be able to cut true Adamantium, but the Atomic axe should be the single exception. It’s whole reason for existance is that it can cut anything. Outside of the Axe (which is a unique, semi-mystical artifact, in the Earth-1 version, as opposed to the wimped out modern version), I agree: true adamantium should be completely invulnerable to anything else.

Fenris

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Hmm. Okay, I can go with that. Your comic book fu is strong…

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Just to nitpick, but you do remember that the Taskmaster’s “memory reflexes” skill (or whatever it’s called) fades over time? He needs to watch film or video footage of his subject to keep his skills sharp.

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Emperor Palpatine-Galactic level power
Darkseid-Global level power
Dr. Doom-Nation level power
Lex Luthor-Multi-Conglomorate Corporation level power
Pinhead-power from Hell

How 'bout an all Star Trek villian group?

Borg Queen with consort Lore
Gul Dukat
Khan

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I’m thinking most people here already want to bend the rules separating comics villains (and heros) from other forms of pop culture villainy (and heroism).

I think it’s time to consider movies, TV shows, and video games fair game.

In which case, Sephiroth (from FF7) might have a decent shot at this list.

And come to think of it, Metroid, the Jedi, and Buffy might have something to say about that hero list. (Not actually proposing these, just pulling 'em outta my ass.)