Dune (Film) Post-release thread (open spoilers from film)

When it first came out, friends told me, “this will be on HBO max until xxx”. I don’t have HBO max, so I didn’t care. But based on that, I’m certain they announced when it would leave HBO max in the same announcement that said it would be there at all.

Ooo, yes! Also very good, I thought, in Tenet.

Hadn’t thought about that at the time, but yes, I can see that now.

Agreed. I didn’t think she was too weepy or emotive, under the circumstances. She’s also very good in the two most recent Mission: Impossible movies.

Huh. Very cool - thanks for posting that!

Fortunately, someone was able to “translate” the throat-singer in the Salusa Secundus scene. :slight_smile:

I like that Gurney Halleck twice quoted what sounded like scripture or commonly-accepted axioms - from the Orange Catholic Bible, perhaps?

Momoa looks a lot like a young-ish Stephen Seagal to me in some scenes. It was actually a little distracting.

Who knows how much the pronunciation of Earth words will change in 10k+ years?

Yes. She’s also impressed that Paul knows just how to put on and adjust his stillsuit, as if he had been born a Fremen.

The bad guys also try to bring down Duncan’s fleeing 'thopter over Arrakeen with a laser. Cool scene, but crazy reckless, going by the books.

Ha - great clip! Appropriately baffling.

I just realized that the stuff that makes Dune interesting is all in the exposition. It’s not what the characters do. The actual events of the plot are kind of standard sci-fi adventure. The real cool stuff is why various people and factions do things.

Well, I’m watching the movie now, and it annoys me now.

And … that one word will have changed pronunciation in 10,000 years, but aaaaaaall the other words (gestures broadly) are the same.

I feel like that’s true of a lot of SciFi/fantasy/dystopian/speculative fiction.

Personally, it’s my assumption that none of the characters in the books are actually speaking English - they’re speaking some form of “Standard Galactic Arabo-Latin” comprising an amalgam of Earth languages that’ve been mashed together and amalgamated and evolved over the course of 20,000 years, which has been translated to English for our benefit, and the non-English words we’re hearing are bits of non-standard dialect and/or concepts that can’t be translated to a single English word.

You don’t need to assume. Cononically, mostly they’re speaking Galach, some Fremen makes an appearance, with some other specialized languages mentioned but not actually quoted.

… since we’re all here…

I read the first, maybe the 2nd, of the ‘Brian Herbert’ Dune books and found them to be execrable. Are any of them worth reading?

No.

Although I do like the idea of Duncan Idaho becoming the true Kwizatz Haderach by dint of having lived and died a thousand times.

Nope, not even the slightest. As I said in a different thread, imagine that there was a fine dining restaurant you loved, but you moved away and haven’t been there for many years. You return, to find it’s still open - same name, same decor. But when you go in, the menu & food is actually from Applebees. That’s what the Brian Herbert books are like.

Not even the Butlerian Jihad one? Shame, that’s the title that always makes be think… ‘but maybe this one won’t suck’.

I read the 3 immediate prequels (House Atreides, House Harkonnen, House Corinno), Butlerian Jihad, and got about 1/3 of the way through Machine Crusade before I gave up in utter disgust. No, there’s no reason at all to read them. Stylistically, compared to the originals they feel like they’re written for 12 year olds, the plots make no sense, lots of pointless torture porn, etc.
ETA: I see you said you read the first 1 or 2 - they don’t get any better AFAICT.

I may be run off this board on a rail for saying this, but I loved the Brian Herbert books. He cut through a lot of the endless philosophizing and got to the action. Plus he gave the full story of Norma Cenva whi is one of my favorite characters of all time.

I await the pitchfork-wieldung crowd.

Excuse us. We are the pitchfork-weirding crowd, tyvm.

You like what you like, but “He cut through a lot of the endless philosophizing and got to the action.” sounds like you missed a lot of the point of the FH novels.

Yo got the prana-bindu farm implements, I see.

I’m only here for the sietch orgy.

I got through these out of some sort of displaced sense of duty (got them from a library) and because they were EXTREMELY quick reads.

IIRC, they consists of very short chapters, 4-5 pages each. There is a lot of whitespace between each chapter. There is only one vaguely significant event in each chapter. So you can scan past descriptions of places, and boring internal monologue, until you hit the two or three important paragraphs, then skip the rest of the chapter. Still not worth the read.