EA Sports NHL '93, '94 & '95

I recently got a chance to play '95 on a friends Sega Genesis. I hadn’t played any of these games for years but had a blast. I wasted many a day back in junior high playing these on both Genesis and Super Nintendo. Now I’m thinking of getting an old system and a version of the game so I can waste more days. I have some questions regarding specific details of each version for each system. Correct me if I’m wrong…

'93 for Genesis.

The first edition of the series.
had fighting but with limited lateral movement.
no injuries.
no stat tracking
no player identification on ice other than number

'93 for Super Nintendo

crappy frame rate compared to Genesis version
no fighting (?)
other than that, same as Genesis version.

'94 for Genesis

one timers (!)
figthing with unlimited lateral movement
injuries with blood
lots of stats
players id’d by number and position on the ice

'94 for Super Nintendo

same features as Genesis except no blood on injuries

'95 for Genesis

one timers
no fighting (!)
injuries with no blood
lots of stats
same on ice player id

'95 for Super Nintendo

not sure about this one, I think it’s pretty much the same as '95 Genesis.

There are a few other differences between systems that I’m aware of, the big one is that with the 6 button Super Nintendo controller, you could use the L and R buttons to instantly take control of the left or right defenseman. This was handy if you were stuck controlling a guy who got dumped at center ice.

If anyone can correct any of my guesses about different versions of this game or has any new insights for me I’d love to hear.

Thanks

Moved to CS.

-xash
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Oh man, I can’t believe I almost missed this thread!

bat_attack, for future reference, when you have a thread as important as this one, do not hesitate to bump it!

The EA Sports NHL series for Sega Genesis probably had the greatest run for any sports game ever. The wrap-around move and the deke are money every time, but they never get old. The money moves just contribute to this classic story. I have been having pangs to dust off the old Genesis and hook it up for old time’s sake. I just hope I can find all the parts. It had many great features that aren’t even present in the current editions out on systems like the PS2, such as highlights from other games.

This series is even fun for non-hockey fans.

Let’s start from the beginning:

NHL hockey by EA Sports was the first NHL game and came out in 1992, I believe. This is the version where it was only the players with numbers, no names, but it did have the team logos. There was the option to turn off penalties altogether leading to a fight at the slightest bump. Fighting started any time and all the time. After beating a friend to win the Stanley Cup my friend checked my guy with the Cup, who promptly dropped the Holy Grail to fight the guy that checked him. Messier was still with the Oilers, though he was #11. The Stars were still the North Stars in Minnesota, and it was the first year the San Jose Sharks, in all their teal glory, were in the league. It was only possible to go throught the playoffs, not a season. The conferences and divisions were still set up with the Wales, and Campbell Conferences. The divisions were I believe Adams, Patrick, Norris, and oh no! I’ve drawn a blank on the fourth. There were no injuries. I believe an EA Sports hockey game that was not NHL predated this one, but I only saw it mentioned in a book, I have never actually played it. I think it was probably similar to NES Ice Hockey in that the teams were just countries, like the Olympics.

1993 NHLPA hockey. This was the version that was being played by Double Down Trent and the rest of the gang in Swingers. Roenick was unstoppable, as Trent points out (paraphrasing), “It’s not so much me as it is Roenick that’s awesome.” Yes, this year had blood accompanying the injuries, which was illustrated when Trent made Wayne’s (Gretzky) head bleed. I don’t remember if it was 93 or 94, but in one of these years the player would either be knocked out for the period or for the game. If there was blood, they were done for the game. Always a great amount of anticipation when a player went down, “DON’T START BLEEDING!” This was the first year with names, and I believe there was also stat tracking (I scored 100 goals with Pavel Bure during a playoff run), but team logos were absent. The theme music sounds like it’s worthy of a porno. Season was still not possible, only playoffs. The options for penalties went from “On, Off,” and “off excepting fighting” to just “On” and “Off except fighting” because of the NHL’s attempt to clean up it’s image and give in to soccer mom’s desire not to have their kids turn into thugs. This was a mistake that would turn into a slippery slope in later versions.

1994 NHL. Yes, one-timers made their first appearance adding another good scoring play to the already solid arsenal of the wrap around move and the deke. The “bench check” was also added, allowing you to check an opposing player over the bench. This was the first year for Eric Lindros, and Teemu Selanne, I believe. There was still no season play, just playoffs. The Ducks and the Panthers made their debut, and so did the “player cards” which kept track of records over the long term. I think this was the first year that the “three stars of the game” were awarded. Fighting was completely absent in this version.

1995 NHL. This is the first year it was possible to play an entire season, though if you were too good (winning all the games) the stats would mess up and it was possible to miss the playoffs despite having the best record. Awards were brought in and players could win things like the Hart Trophy and Norris Trophy. It was possible to make trades and there was a GM that would either approve or reject a trade depending on whether or not the trade was “fair”. Fighting had still not made a comeback. Because of the absences of fighting in the NHL games of the mid-90’s I will forever hold a grudge against NHL Commish Gary Bettman.

95 was the last year I played on Genesis. I got 96 for computer and it was outstanding. I didn’t play 97, and got 98 and onwards for the first Playstation.

Of all the versions, I would have to say that I think NHLPA 1993 was my favorite of the series. It was the first year with names, and while it didn’t have the logos, stat tracking and player names made up for it. Even though fighting had to result in a penalty, it was still in the game. There is a huge nostalgia factor as well since the game had older players would not appear in later games and current stars early in their career (Doug Weight and Tony Amonte on the Rangers! Langway with the Caps! Larmer with the 'Hawks!). I would say that it narrowly edges out the original Tecmo Bowl as the greatest sports video game ever.

Out of curiousity, does anyone know about the very first EA hockey game I mentioned above, where the countries are the teams? How was that game?

Anyway, this is a classic series. I hear 04 for PS2 has made a comeback after ther quality of the series had fallen off a bit with the first PS2 games.

smythe division is the fourth?

http://www.vgmuseum.com/images/nes/01/hockey.html

this ice hockey game? on the NES

I don’t remember it being nations vs nations… it’s been a long time since I played this game and all i remember is one thing about it. Choosing skinny fast guys, fat slow guys and normal guys on your roster. Not developed by EA though so I doubt this is the game you want to know about.

I kept my Genesis and every edition of the games mentioned above for my kids in the future…aw, who am I kidding…I pretty much kept them for me!

Are these the ones before it went 3D?

Yep, Smythe was the fourth name I couldn’t remember. Smythe: the forgotten division.

Ice Hockey on NES was the game with the fat, skinny, and medium players. It was a good game, but I think I would give the edge (no pun intended) to Blades of Steel when it comes to ice hockey games for NES. The fights in “Ice Hockey” were more or less scrums, you couldn’t tell what was going on and then someone went to the box. With “Blades of Steel” only the loser of the fight went to the penalty box. That taught me a valuable lesson growing up: it isn’t fighting that’s wrong and will get you punished, it’s losing the fight that will get you punished. The real NHL needs to look into this rule change. You know how Gladiator was a popular movie? OK, now put those guys on ice skates and the entertainment value goes up 10x.

Ice Hockey did have countries for the teams. The countries I remember were USA, Soviet Russia (where puck hits you!) – complete with the hammer and cycl, Finland (or Sweden?), Poland (Why? :confused: ), West Germany, Czechoslavakia, and Canada. However, this isn’t the game I was talking about. I found a link describing the first EA game. I’m going to have to find an actual copy of the game and see what it’s like. Here’s the link describing EA’s first venture into the slick world: EA Hockey. I’ll have to try it out for no other reason than to play as Luxembourg or Yugoslavia. That’s the great thing about hockey video games; dicatatorships can rise and fall, civil wars can rage for years, but the countries of the Eastern Bloc will live on in video game form forever. sigh

Everyone should try these games out for the sake of posteriety. The graphics aren’t as realistic, neither is the game play, the controls and options are limited, but these games were from a time when video games were video games. The Nordiques were still in Quebec, and they still sucked; The Jets were in Winnipeg, and they sucked too. Good times. In the original NHL Hockey (before NHLPA 93) the teams all had plural names until the Lightning tainted the league.

These are some great games.

EA Hockey is decent. It’s just the original NHL Hockey (the 1992 version, with numbers and logos), with National teams instead of NHL teams. Otherwise, it’s the exact same game.

NHL 94, to correct the OP, did not have blood. It did have injuries, however. Also, NHL 94 added the “pound on the glass” fan.

Super Nintendo.

You can all get in line.

I will plow through EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU with the Red Wings. Adjust my line so that Ray Sheppard is moved out, move Federov in. Yzerman, Ysebaert and Federov will make you feel like you have just been sexually violated.

You guys want none. I promise you.

God, what a great game.

Mouthbreather has exposed one of the game’s flaws: no internet play. If this were a PS2 game it would be possible to play him online (assuming both players were set up) but in this case mouthbreather can shoot off his mouth and not have to back it up. Even though he was playing the game on the more inferior of the two systems (Genesis was better by far) he still wouldn’t stand a chance if I had any of the three following teams: New York Rangers (Messier, Gartner, Graves, Leetch, Zubov), Chicago Blackhawks (Roenick, Larmer, Thomas, Chelios, Smith), or LA (Gretzky, Robitaille, Sandstrom, Coffey, Blake).

To think the Dead Wings could beat me? Clearly it has been far too long since you have played the game, mouthbreather.

Hmm. :slight_smile:

Oh sure, go ahead and point out contradictions in my post, it still doesn’t change the fact that I would win. :wink:

It was always fun to play against the Wings though; Probert was guaranteed to get in a fight (but I would always beat him).

Didn’t they scrap the one timer one year and replace it with the tip ins?

I always liked being Washington and taking point shots with the defence, especially when I wanted to piss off a friend!

Bah. Playing with the Red Wings in NHLPA '93 on the Super Nintendo is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Real men played the Quebec Nordiques!

I also enjoy doing that.