Ed, at some point you'll need to quell the rebellion.

[Heffalump_and_Roo]

@raindog

Their hands are tied? Have you read this thread?

Yes, and it’s clear that you don’t participate much in the Pit. (I actually checked–5 threads you participated in 2008) What you’ve seen here is nothing compared to the roasting you would have gotten if the old Pit rules were in play. And it’s one of the reasons that I liked the old rules. People that posted poor arguments or only had troll bait as their arguments would get roasted if they didn’t increase the level of their arguments. You got away with a lot because of the uncertainty regarding the rules.

@raindog

And there were others playing the same drama card. Hey, that was part of the reason I posted this thread. This whole persecution complex----which seems to be hitting epidemic levels----was getting tiring.

And another comment showing that you weren’t involved in what happened in the Pit. This was a show of frustration, not a persecution complex. These random rules had been affecting people in the Pit for months.

@raindog

Save the logic, I’ve heard it before: raindog made me so mad, and I can’t be expected to act like an adult.

Oddly, you were the one who threw out the unemployed comment. Since you’ve apologized, could that have been written in the heat of the moment? In anger for feeling like everyone in this thread was picking on you and you wanted to get back?

@raindog

Ed’s got his work cut out for him. I don’t know if there is a grace period or if the new rules take effect March 1 or what. But clearly a line must be drawn, and if this kind of witless, banal trash is acceptable then there should be no new rules.

Here’s one of the newest updates from Ed:

@Ed_Zotti

I agree with you that this needs to be self-enforcing, and yeah, the only way to do that is to have a list. We’ll start one over the weekend and I’ll amend the rules accordingly. Yes, it will be short. As for your first point, that would be tough to enforce. If a post consists in its entirety of, “You’re an idiot,” some will think that violates the rule.

One thing I’ll think we’ll put in the rules is something about “exceptionally vicious, hateful, or shocking remarks.” One of those things you’d invoke maybe once a year.

It varies from your view, it seems. Perhaps you now want to be advocating no new rules.

Oh, and you’re an idiot.

@raindog

My view is a distinct minority on this issue, and it has made me a lightning rod—in part because I have been uncharacteristically vocal in this thread and the ATMB thread that started this. I accept that.

Having posted many times in the minority position here, I can assure you that the response you got was not solely because you took the minority position. Your posts have been taunting, condescending and baiting. That’s what drew fire.

If you had a clear, coherent position that was in the minority, there are many people here that would try to listen. You didn’t post a clear and coherent position.