I just watched the movie “The Prince of Egypt”, and i started wandering if the Egyptians ever recorded the story of Moses ? I would figure that something that big would be recorded some where in they’re history, can anybody enlighten me ?? Just pondering …
Ugh,…well you must remember the Egyptians had very selective memory and mostly recorded their victories while ignoring their defeats. I believe most historians put the Hebrew exodous somewhere in the Kingdom of Ramses II (who contrary to the Bible’s perspective on things was a VERY successful leader). There might be a few obscure references during that time to a Hebrew exodous, but apparently the Egyptians considered it to be FAR less of a big deal than the Hebrews themselves. I don’t think Egyptian records support any destruction of an army by a fickle Red Sea.
No,no, no. The Pharaoh of the Oppression was allegedly RamsesII. The Pharaoh of the Exodus was, thus, Merneptah. If RameseII had been around during the exodus, there would not have been much to Jewish history . Merneptah was a MUCH weaker monarch, and had loads of troubles documented during his reign. He lost Canaan to the Sea Peoples, for instance. So, the plagues & exodus are not unlikely ( excluding the miraculous) , historicaly, but are not documented, per se. Incidentally, Exodus does not say the Pharaoh died in the Red Sea, and in fact there is no record of this.
From what I’ve read, there are no written records of the existence of Moses outside of the Bible. I don’t see that as so surprising, since
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[li]The story of Moses would be a defeat for the Egyptian nation, as avalongod said.[/li][li]Also, historical inscriptions in Egypt have been know to be changed and rewritten (historical revisionism), with, for example, the names of unpopular rulers being erased.[/li]
I am agreeing with prior posters, there is nothing conclusive in Egyptian records. There are some obscure references that some people interpret broadly, but it’s not even clear what the word for “Hebrews” would have been in ancient Egyptian.
Here’s the link to Cecil’s take on it: Did the Jewish exodus really happen?
You must remember that lack of evidence is not proof of anything. History in those days was NOT meant to be an impartial recording of factual events, history was meant to be a glorious retelling of the conquests and triumphs of the people hearing the story. Storytellers did NOT tell of the defeats of the king, not if they wanted to be alive to tell stories the next night. Kings had their triumphs carved on monuments; often, the next king would erase them.
The closest we come to having both sides of a Bible story (the Israelite version and the Assyrian version) is not until late in the reign of kings, around 700 BC (see the Mailbag article on Ten Lost Tribes for details.) Dates for the Exodus are therefore unclear, but generally believed nowadays to be around 1250 BC or thereabouts.
[I fixed the links. -manhattan]